Locomotive Services Fleet (LSL) updates

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90002 Outside Eastleigh Works Earlier Today *PHOTO NOT MINE*

 

[Iskra]

Great video, the Deltic looks and sounds superb! So many other interesting workings too, particularly the Class 93s on Mk4s! Thank you for sharing.

Thank you! Yes, it was a good day at Doncaster today, like the old days almost. A shame the Class 50 didn’t run through too, but you can’t have everything!

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90002 Outside Eastleigh Works Earlier Today *PHOTO NOT MINE*
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Interesting!

I do think that LSL have missed a trick slightly with their black locomotives and that they should have done them in the style of the Woodhead Electrics and 08’s - plain black with red buffer beams. I tried AI generated pictures of 57’s in such a livery and they came out good.

 

[HertiageFan]

The deltic has failed… replaced by 37409. I was hoping to see it as well

 

[CW2]

The deltic has failed… replaced by 37409. I was hoping to see it as well

According to Railcam, 57311 is leading, with 37409 on rear.

 

[HertiageFan]

An issue with a piston

 

[43096]

An issue with a piston

Silly engines… should put something more reliable in!

 

[fgwrich]

Silly engines… should put something more reliable in!

It’s fine, it’s been replaced with something more reliable and rateable anyway

Sticking with LSL’s 57 fleet, 57302 is currently having a bogie overhaul.

 

[Iskra]

Silly engines… should put something more reliable in!

They should have a second engine inside, just in case…

Well, I went out for it anyway, although mainly for the RHTT 37’s that preceded it…

 

[The_Train]

Not a good sign for the Deltic. LSL have reportedly spent a lot of money on that loco and it has failed yet again

 

[31160]

Not a good sign for the Deltic. LSL have reportedly spent a lot of money on that loco and it has failed yet again

Tbf delicious have always been maintenance heavy, when Mr Walker had it he spent loads on it and it kept lasping out of work and had to be subbed by 40145 more than once

 

[Loadhaul60059]

Were Deltic's this unreliable when they were in regular service on the ECML?

 

[amahy]

Were Deltic's this unreliable when they were in regular service on the ECML?

They have always been complex beasts, but there used to be way more power units, which were simply swapped when one failed, and the faulty one overhauled, then put into a different engine.

 

[Strathclyder]

Not a good sign for the Deltic. LSL have reportedly spent a lot of money on that loco and it has failed yet again

As noted, Deltics have always been complex, highly-strung beasts. What doesn't help is that spare engines/parts aren't anywhere near as plentiful as they once were. RSG has had at least one ex-marine power unit installed in the last decade and a half, an indicator of the extremely short supply of these things as a whole ruling out a relatively straightforward engine swap in the event of serious failure as in BR days.

That said, RSG has had a notably bad run of luck reliabilty-wise these last few years. I remember back when she was hired out to GBRf for ScotRail EMU drags in her last couple years under Martin Walker's ownership - the Class 334 refurbishment drags between Yoker & Kilmarnock Brodies specifically, becoming the sole loco employed on those workings by May 2013, only being subbed for by a 66 once after that point until those workings finished in December 2014. Not the kind of work the Deltics were really designed or intended for, but she seemed to cope fairly well; it being timed at lower speeds and with the load only really requiring one power unit to be used likely helped too.

 

[Forty29]

Did 57311 fail to as seen a YouTube video with 90001 hauling the train in the dark or was it a later ECS?

 

[Iskra]

Did 57311 fail to as seen a YouTube video with 90001 hauling the train in the dark or was it a later ECS?

I’m assuming it was the ECS back to Crewe.

Does anyone know which 47’s are likely to appear on the Scotland-York Statesman on Friday please?

 

[MiNi]

Did 57311 fail to as seen a YouTube video with 90001 hauling the train in the dark or was it a later ECS?

Possibly low on fuel.90001 worked Crewe-Willesden to bring the Ecs back.

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I’m assuming it was the ECS back to Crewe.

Does anyone know which 47’s are likely to appear on the Scotland-York Statesman on Friday please?

Something in Scottish livery or two tone green.

 

[Swiss Toni]

57311 standing in for the failed Deltic.

"The Edinburgh Xmas Market", 30/11/25.

After D9000 failed at Carlisle the previous tail gunner 57311 "The Institution of Mechanical Engineers“ took over for the remainder of the journey to Kings Cross Seen here crossing the River Aire at Skipton.

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"Royal Scots Grey" two days earlier heading for Carlisle.

"Royal Scots Grey", 27/11/25.

Two for the price of one today as Deltic D9000 "Royal Scots Grey" heads north light engine after taking the Kings Cross to York leg of "Steam Dream's" Xmas market railtour. "Blue Peter followed shortly after. Got to say the two tone green with white cab looks fabulous.

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followed closely by "Blue Peter"

"Blue Peter", 27/11/25.

60532 0n the "racing stretch" of the ECML with the York to Edinburgh leg of "Steam Dream's" Edinburgh Xmas Market railtour.

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[Trackman]

An issue with a piston

Do you have a source?
What I have heard it sounded a bit ropey so they shut down the engine, but it wouldn't start again, doubt they will find out the cause until it's back home.

 

[Rail Quest]

40013 is off to the ELR currently and will be returning later today on 0Z41. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R23233/2025-12-05/detailed

A Railcam allocation says it will be hauling 40012 back to Crewe as that loco is "now part of LSL". Is this true and has is been discussed here? If not, what do LSL have planned for her? Screenshot attached is of the Railcam allocation.

EDIT: Yes, just seen this acquisition was reported a few months back.

 

[The_Train]

40013 is off to the ELR currently and will be returning later today on 0Z41. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R23233/2025-12-05/detailed

A Railcam allocation says it will be hauling 40012 back to Crewe as that loco is "now part of LSL". Is this true and has is been discussed here? If not, what do LSL have planned for her? Screenshot attached is of the Railcam allocation.

EDIT: Yes, just seen this acquisition was reported a few months back.

Good news that 012 is heading to Crewe.

Does anybody know how far away from being mainline ready this loco is?

 

[Harpo]

A Railcam allocation says it will be hauling 40012 back to Crewe as that loco is "now part of LSL". Is this true and has is been discussed here?

The sale’s been trailed (and then denied) since the middle of the year with some controversy around folk who believed, possibly mistakenly, that their shareholding constituted shared ownership of 40012.

 

[Rhysdabeast]

40013 is off to the ELR currently and will be returning later today on 0Z41. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:R23233/2025-12-05/detailed

A Railcam allocation says it will be hauling 40012 back to Crewe as that loco is "now part of LSL". Is this true and has is been discussed here? If not, what do LSL have planned for her? Screenshot attached is of the Railcam allocation.

EDIT: Yes, just seen this acquisition was reported a few months back.

It's been purchased by Andania Engineering who owns 40013 and 37402, it's carrying on to Worksop for winter storage

 

[Wyrleybart]

The sale’s been trailed (and then denied) since the middle of the year with some controversy around folk who believed, possibly mistakenly, that their shareholding constituted shared ownership of 40012.

As I understand it a number of people joined the Class Forty Appeal way back in the 1980s with the express intention of preserving a class 40, Back then 40s were a really endangered species because BR wanted to rob components from them for overhauling and dual braking class 20s IIRC. I think the turbos were one component.

IIRC CFA were looking specifically at a split headcode loco ie 40135, but were outbid by the CFPS, so 40012 became their loco. No idea how the CFA was structured although I know a number of railway personnel were involved, and not sure if they purchased some kind of share arrangement.

 

[Richard Scott]

As I understand it a number of people joined the Class Forty Appeal way back in the 1980s with the express intention of preserving a class 40, Back then 40s were a really endangered species because BR wanted to rob components from them for overhauling and dual braking class 20s IIRC. I think the turbos were one component.

Cylinder heads were also recovered, read somewhere they were valued at around £1000 each.
Think the group looked at 40139, which was still languishing at Crewe but £16k for cylinder heads meant it was a non-starter. Think another group wanted 40195 but came up against same problem.
BR agreed to sell 40012/060/118 and 135 intact but 40060 was scrapped by accident at Berry's scrapyard, I believe.

 

[TSGN Spotter]

Sounds like Duke of Gloucester had a incident at Hanwell loops yesterday evening coming off the Saphos charter from Bath to Ely.
This service is cancelled.
This service was cancelled due to a mishap (TY).
Imaged shows duke of Gloucester on the buffers

Hanwell Loops to Southall WCR

 

[37114]

As I understand it a number of people joined the Class Forty Appeal way back in the 1980s with the express intention of preserving a class 40, Back then 40s were a really endangered species because BR wanted to rob components from them for overhauling and dual braking class 20s IIRC. I think the turbos were one component.

IIRC CFA were looking specifically at a split headcode loco ie 40135, but were outbid by the CFPS, so 40012 became their loco. No idea how the CFA was structured although I know a number of railway personnel were involved, and not sure if they purchased some kind of share arrangement.

At one point they owned 37190 and 50007 as well.

 

[D6130]

Sounds like Duke of Gloucester had a incident at Hanwell loops yesterday evening coming off the Saphos charter from Bath to Ely.

Hanwell Loops to Southall WCR

Whoops! Trying to extend the loop? It would be a shame if the loco has been damaged after such a lengthy and expensive overhaul.

 

[father_jack]

Sounds like Duke of Gloucester had a incident at Hanwell loops yesterday evening coming off the Saphos charter from Bath to Ely.

Hanwell Loops to Southall WCR

That link is not to rhe same story.

 

[TSGN Spotter]

That link is not to rhe same story.

Apologies, now amended

 

[HertiageFan]

Sounds like Duke of Gloucester had a incident at Hanwell loops yesterday evening coming off the Saphos charter from Bath to Ely.

Hanwell Loops to Southall WCR

Here is the link: ‘

Locomotive Services Group release update on steam locomotive 71000 Duke of Gloucester

Locomotive Services Group has released a statement after 71000 Duke of Gloucester was involved in an incident in Hanwell. 71000 and its support coach came into contact with the buffers at Hanwell East Spur. Thankfully, no one was hurt in the "very slow speed" move, and no damage was sustained…

www.railadvent.co.uk

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