Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[QSK19]

Why? If crew available and a working train then EMR will do a soft launch into service.

I’d guess because it’s been such bad luck up to now, one should set expectations low and anything more is a bonus.

 

[PG]

Probably depends upon whether the issue in the toilets has been sorted. Don't lock the door before the system tells you "please lock the door".

Anyone in the Derby area know if any print/vinyl firm has had a rush job of stickers with words to that effect...?

 

[Denis103]

Read into this how you see it but tomorrow's (3/12/2025) 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras on RTT shows up dmu but changes en-route. Possibly a 810 working. Other 222 workings just show as diesel multiple unit throughout.

 

[tram21]

Read into this how you see it but tomorrow's (3/12/2025) 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras on RTT shows up dmu but changes en-route. Possibly a 810 working. Other 222 workings just show as diesel multiple unit throughout.

This is discussed upthread. They are pathed as this but this is no indication of it actually being operated by an 810

 

[norbitonflyer]

This is discussed upthread. They are pathed as this but this is no indication of it actually being operated by an 810

1c17 was shown in the same way this morning, but was a 222. Note it also says "pathed as class 810" from Kilby Junction both today and tomorrow.

 

[Denis103]

1c17 was shown in the same way this morning, but was a 222. Note it also says "pathed as class 810" from Kilby Junction both today and tomorrow.

Ok. Thanks.

 

[Railperf]

CHIME WHISTLE PUBLISHING ON X: A source at EMR has just DM me to say that a 810 will, hopefully!, enter service tomorrow (Weds 3 December). Let's hope no one gets stuck in the lavatory

https://x.com/ChimeWhistle/status/1995980358613975158?s=20

I'm hearing that a pair of 810's are now available (no unit numbers). So it appears the toilet issues are remedied. No indication whether both units will run tomorrow though a pair of diagrams was planned to be 810's from today - as the timing loads indicate.

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Live Rail Record - showing 810010 allocated to 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras tomorrow

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also Realtime trains showing 810010 allocated

Realtime Trains | 1C17 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras International | 03/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 1C17 0700 departure from Sheffield to St Pancras International on 03/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[liamf656]

To be 810010 tomorrow

5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
5C17 0923 STP CRI 0943
5F32 1103 CRI STP 1120
1F32 1132 STP SHF 1342
1C59 1400 SHF STP 1609
5D61 1620 STP STP 1650
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1913 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2132 STP SHF 2341
5F82 2356 SHF XEP 0114

 

[Cach17]

Glad they've finally (hopefully) squished those gremlins.

And if not, then I'm sure whichever poor sod gets locked in the bog will be handsomely compensated.

 

[Railperf]

Glad they've finally (hopefully) squished those gremlins.

And if not, then I'm sure whichever poor sod gets locked in the bog will be handsomely compensated.

Just don't drink too much tea or coffee so you don't have to visit the onboard loos

 

[WesternLancer]

To be 810010 tomorrow

5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
5C17 0923 STP CRI 0943
5F32 1103 CRI STP 1120
1F32 1132 STP SHF 1342
1C59 1400 SHF STP 1609
5D61 1620 STP STP 1650
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1913 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2132 STP SHF 2341
5F82 2356 SHF XEP 0114

Just the one out rather than the two originally hoped for this week?

So only this one diagram presumably.

But it’s a start.

 

[david.stannard]

Just the one out rather than the two originally hoped for this week?

So only this one diagram presumably.

But it’s a start.

Perhaps as a prelude to today's (Wednesday) service entry, 810010 took over Tuesday's afternoon leg of the Etches Park driver training run from 810008. Allocated to the training run today is 810006, the other set reported earlier to be ready for entry to passenger service.

 

[InTheEastMids]

Just the one out rather than the two originally hoped for this week?

So only this one diagram presumably.

But it’s a start.

EMR only have 4 units in operation and are normally using 2 for training each day, so it would be quite brave to try to have all 4 in use on day 1.

 

[Sonyman66]

810010 on its way to Sheffield to work 1C17 just passed through Chesterfield

 

[800001]

EMR only have 4 units in operation and are normally using 2 for training each day, so it would be quite brave to try to have all 4 in use on day 1.

And all 4 not necessarily to passenger standard.

The plan allegedly always was one, then the following week another set it into use.

 

[Nym]

Anyone in the Derby area know if any print/vinyl firm has had a rush job of stickers with words to that effect...?

Or perhaps just design the system to not need to be operated in exactly the correct order?

Sounds a lot like low cost labour software again... Perhaps as an industry we didn't learn from every other fleet that's gone this way?

 

[Bob85]

810010 has just left Sheffield, the beginning of an era!

 

[dk1]

That’s caught a few out this morning. What a lovely surprise to wake up to.

 

[duffield]

I'll try to catch up with it at Leicester or Derby this afternoon. Not the first run, but at least the first day ... assuming it lasts that long!

 

[Bellecat]

I’m assuming that the same diagram will run all week all being well….

 

[720144]

Looks like the wait is finally over. 810010 left Derby 4 mins late.

 

[liamf656]

I’m assuming that the same diagram will run all week all being well….

Correct. The second diagram may well appear too

 

[dk1]

Looks like the wait is finally over. 810010 left Derby 4 mins late.

3L start from Sheffield. Was 5L at one point.

 

[WesternLancer]

And all 4 not necessarily to passenger standard.

The plan allegedly always was one, then the following week another set it into use.

Yes. I just meant that originally this week was the following week. But 1 set is a good start obviously.

 

[Amos390]

810010 has now been placed into passenger service today. It will be running 5C17 - 1C17 - 5C17 - 5F32 - 1F32 - 1C39 - 5D61 - 1D61 - 1B88. - 1F82 - 5F82.

 

[BogiePicker]

Glad they've finally (hopefully) squished those gremlins.

And if not, then I'm sure whichever poor sod gets locked in the bog will be handsomely compensated.

Do these trains not have manually locking vestibule-end toilets a la 80x, or are the carriages too short? Not familiar with the interior layout of these.

 

[liamf656]

810010 has now been placed into passenger service today. It will be running 5C17 - 1C17 - 5C17 - 5F32 - 1F32 - 1C39 - 5D61 - 1D61 - 1B88. - 1F82 - 5F82.

As discussed in post #4928 onwards!

 

[Snow1964]

Good news that one has finally entered service

Yes it is 6 years, 4 months, and few days since they were ordered.

What was said about them then, is probably work relinking, so anyone lucky enough to get one can compare to the EMR press release of July 2019

provide more seats, more services, faster trains and better stations for passengers

Abellio invests £400 million in new trains for East Midlands Railway | EMR

Abellio UK, recently awarded the new eight-year EMR franchise by the Department for Transport, has awarded a £400 million contract to Hitachi Rail to build a pioneering new fleet of intercity trains.

www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk

 

[duffield]

RTT is showing slightly extended dwell times at Long Eaton, Loughborough and Leicester, losing a total of about 6 minutes. I wonder what the reason is? Staff being extra careful about the dispatch and door operation process due to lack of familiarity?

Link below to Realtime trains detailed view for 1C17 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras International:

Realtime Trains | 1C17 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras International | 03/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 1C17 0700 departure from Sheffield to St Pancras International on 03/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Edit: Looks like the power changeover from Diesel to Electric went OK between Leicester & Market Harborough.

 

[Spartacus]

RTT is showing slightly extended dwell times at Long Eaton, Loughborough and Leicester, losing a total of about 6 minutes. I wonder what the reason is? Staff being extra careful about the dispatch and door operation process due to lack of familiarity?

Link below to Realtime trains detailed view for 1C17 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras International:

Realtime Trains | 1C17 0700 Sheffield to St Pancras International | 03/12/2025

Real-time train running information for 1C17 0700 departure from Sheffield to St Pancras International on 03/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Late start from Sheffield was due to a door issue (hopefully not a toilet one!), so could be that, but could just be a familiarisation issue too.