DaveyJones
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I believe so, it was at Clifton&Lowther Crossovers around 6am. The headcode matches an ECS of the derailed unitIs this the 57 + 390117?
I believe so, it was at Clifton&Lowther Crossovers around 6am. The headcode matches an ECS of the derailed unitIs this the 57 + 390117?
The rails don't have to be covered more than a few inches to detail a train so the fact the cutting isn't higher than the train is irrelevant.A few pictures of the front of the train but does anyone seen any of the actual landslip and the conditions of the embankment? I'm no expert but considering the whole nose of the train came off it must be quite a bit earth movement, contrary to the photos where the embankment isn't actually that much higher than the train
From some of the photos doing the rounds on news articles it's clear the Lifeguards and Cow Catcher have done their job pretty wellThe landslip probably wasn't that bad since the leading vehicle ploughing through it was enough to clear it to an extent that the rest of the coaches remained on the rails.
Quite. Worth looking at images of the slip at Carmont to see what relatively little can doThe rails don't have to be covered more than a few inches to detail a train so the fact the cutting isn't higher than the train is irrelevant.
Think images of landslip removed as had no source, but a good chunk in the cess I imagine was enough to remove the superficial parts of the front end.
A reliable source has said to me that the current aim is to reopen around 1900 today.
If I remember right, at Carmont it wasn't the earthworks that moved, it was a load of material that got washed out of a drainage trench onto the track. If the same thing happened here, then you'd not necessarily expect that equipment to detect it.It's good that nobody was seriously hurt but it's concerning about the inefficiency of the equipment, be it the detection or the relay of the detection to control
From my recent observations 57309 has been the designated DRS Avanti Thunderbird rescue loco at Carlisle for a while, having taken over from Lady Penelope.As suggested above I've looked at the N. Yorks weather facebook page and an image on there is of 57309 obviously rescuing the 390. Will this loco still have a functioning Dellner coupler or will it be using an adaptor from its hook coupler?

It does beg the question how passengers with restricted mobility are evacuated in such circumstances?
Now departed and on onward journey towards Carlisle, approaching Plumpton Loop as I type. Great news the train was able to be rerailed and moved so quickly.5R22 looks to be in Platform 3 at Penrith
as many others have said, it's not unheard of for (at least one of) the local mountain rescue teams to be drafted in to help with supporting the less mobile - they have stretchers designed to be carried over rough terraina good if not neccesary effort (especially for the elderly in abhorrent weather) all round walking on heavy ballast
And Carmont would probably have looked like this if the train hade not hit the bridge abutment. On the other hand, this incident would have been magnitudes worse if a train had been approaching on the other track.Quite. Worth looking at images of the slip at Carmont to see what relatively little can do
That would be very decent in the circumstances - weather's not great and the location isn't exactly Trafalgar Square.A reliable source has said to me that the current aim is to reopen around 1900 today.
I am not quite sure what the comparison is here, Trafalgar Square has lots of bystanders / spectators and is surrounded by lots of roads that have been blocked off or made one way.That would be very decent in the circumstances - weather's not great and the location isn't exactly Trafalgar Square.
Caledonian Sleeper are stating that they're running a full service tonight.A reliable source has said to me that the current aim is to reopen around 1900 today.
I think you are reading it rather too literally. It's up the top of Shap; regardless of how you want to cut it, it's not particularly accessible.I am not quite sure what the comparison is here, Trafalgar Square has lots of bystanders / spectators and is surrounded by lots of roads that have been blocked off or made one way.
It is not like the old days, as soon as the train jacked out of the way, single line working is instigated from a crossover at a station nearby so got around 2-5 miles single with pilot man. Nowadays they block off 20, 30, 40 miles of route, and use road/rail equipment from an access point with a trolley carrying equipment, it not as if if a crew walks lineside for couple of miles carrying jacks, blocks, shovels etc anymore.
We’ll need some facts before that can be judged.it's concerning about the inefficiency of the equipment, be it the detection or the relay of the detection to control
I am rather pleased with this as I am booked to have a lie-down snooze on 1S26/1B26..!Caledonian Sleeper are stating that they're running a full service tonight.
Indeed. Luckily we have very capable people in the railway family who will be assisting the RAIB with their enquiries and the facts will become clear when the RAIB publish their report (or safety digest).We’ll need some facts before that can be judged.



I think you are reading it rather too literally. It's up the top of Shap; regardless of how you want to cut it, it's not particularly accessible.
As suggested above I've looked at the N. Yorks weather facebook page and an image on there is of 57309 obviously rescuing the 390. Will this loco still have a functioning Dellner coupler or will it be using an adaptor from its hook coupler?