Europhoenix / ESH Class 37s discussion (including ROG spot hire)

[D365]

There's a picture on rail advent of 37423 in a new Europhoenix Rail livery.Very nice.

RailAdvent link here.

Europhoenix Rail Ltd has unveiled a new look for Class 37 No. 37423.

37423 has recently been in the workshop, undergoing some TLC, and has now been unveiled in its new Europhoenix livery.

The locomotive is in the general rail services pool of locomotives and will be used on stock movements and thunderbird duties.

37423 was previously in use with Direct Rail Services before moving over to Europhoenix.

With ex-DRS 37423 having been outshopped in another Europhoenix livery (this time for Europhoenix Rail / EPR) it seems like a good opportunity to set up a dedicated discussion for Europhoenix owned locomotives.

Would I be right in saying that 37407, 423, 901 are operating for Europhoenix Rail? Instead of Rail Operations Group.

 

[FGW_DID]

……..Would I be right in saying that 37407, 423, 901 are operating for Europhoenix Rail? Instead of Rail Operations Group.

Presumably, last month we had a visit from 37901 which brought 2 coaches for tyre turning on the wheel lathe. The 37 had a little headboard on it saying “EPR The Rail Services Partner”

 

[tfw756rider]

Why would they rebrand from the recognised Europhoenix Rail to "EPR"? When I first saw "EPR" I was like "what's that?" and then looked it up and was like "oh, it's Europhoenix Rail".

 

[D365]

Why would they rebrand from the recognised Europhoenix Rail to "EPR"? When I first saw "EPR" I was like "what's that?" and then looked it up and was like "oh, it's Europhoenix Rail".

I did the same internet sleuthing and came to the conclusion that EPR is a new(?) train operations division of Europhoenix. As in, EPR operates their own trains rather than the pre-existing Europhoenix concern which hires locomotives to ROG (and previously exported locomotives to mainland Europe).

 

[tfw756rider]

I did the same internet sleuthing and came to the conclusion that EPR is a new(?) train operations division of Europhoenix. As in, EPR operates their own trains rather than the pre-existing Europhoenix concern which hires locomotives to ROG (and previously exported locomotives to mainland Europe).

I saw that too. Makes sense then, I suppose.

 

[47286Dan]

Would I be right in saying that 37407, 423, 901 are operating for Europhoenix Rail? Instead of Rail Operations Group.

Yes you are right.

Here’s the Europheonix pool(s)

37069 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F D
37146 EPUK KNIGHTSDG LESTER SD B
37207 EPUK KNIGHTSDG KNIGHTSDG T
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR N
37407 EPRL RECTORY J RECTORY J F N
37423 EPUK RECTORY J RECTORY J F N
37901 EPUK MANCR PIC MANCR PIC F N
86229 EPEX BASFDHALL SANDBNAIC N
91117 EPUK LOUGBO HS LOUGBO HS F N
91120 EPUK CREWE HC CREWE HC 1 N

Dan

 

[DBS92042]

Yes you are right.

Here’s the Europheonix pool(s)

37069 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F D
37146 EPUK KNIGHTSDG LESTER SD B
37207 EPUK KNIGHTSDG KNIGHTSDG T
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR N
37407 EPRL RECTORY J RECTORY J F N
37423 EPUK RECTORY J RECTORY J F N
37901 EPUK MANCR PIC MANCR PIC F N
86229 EPEX BASFDHALL SANDBNAIC N
91117 EPUK LOUGBO HS LOUGBO HS F N
91120 EPUK CREWE HC CREWE HC 1 N

Dan

Of those, both 37146 and 86229 no longer exist and 37069 is long-term stored and 37207 is (I think) at the Great Central Railway.

I wonder if 37218 is to receive the same treatment as 423

 

[Suraggu]

Why would they rebrand from the recognised Europhoenix Rail to "EPR"? When I first saw "EPR" I was like "what's that?" and then looked it up and was like "oh, it's Europhoenix Rail".

They are two separate companies.

EPR is Europhoenix’s operating arm and Europhoenix ltd is the locomotive leasing arm. Both have separate tax accounts etc.

 

[tfw756rider]

They are two separate companies.

EPR is Europhoenix’s operating arm and Europhoenix ltd is the locomotive leasing arm. Both have separate tax accounts etc.

Thanks.

 

[Adrian Barr]

37423 showing on TOPS at Doncaster West Yard after working 0Z40 from Colwick / Rectory Jn this morning

 

[47286Dan]

This morning Europheonix move

Europheonix 37407 is working with ROG 37608 to Gascoinge Wood this morning to collect a 730 and take it to Soho on 7Q65

37407 EPRL DERBY RTC 575E161B25 E * GASWDWSUS N
37608 GROG DERBY RTC 575E161B25 F GASWDWSUS N

37423 stil showing at Doncaster West Yard

37423 EPUK DONCWSTYD DONCWSTYD F N

Dan

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon update

37069 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR N
37407 EPRL LESTER SD LESTER SD F N
37423 EPUK LESTER SD 595Z371P01 D * LOUGBO HS N
37901 EPUK RECTORY J RECTORY J F N
91117 EPUK LOUGBO HS LOUGBO HS F N
91120 EPUK CREWE HC CREWE HC 1 N

37423 hauling barrier wagons 64707 & 64664 to Loughborough

37407 to work 0Z07 Leicester to Manchester Piccadilly

Dan

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Afternoon update

ROG

37501 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC E N
37510 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37608 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37611 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37800 GROG WLSDDCREC WMBLY LHS N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC V N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR N
37407 EPRL DERBYST A DERBYST A F N
37423 EPUK WEMBLEYYD WEMBLEYYD F N
37901 EPUK RECTORY J RECTORY J F N

Dan

 

[SEtrains]

Good morning,
I have noticed that 37218 has been at rectory junction depot since July and I was wondering what work it is currently receiving at rectory junction. Any information would be appreciated.

 

[47286Dan]

Wednesday Europheonix update

37069 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F D
37146 EPUK KNIGHTSDG LESTER SD B
37207 EPUK KNIGHTSDG KNIGHTSDG T
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR X
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F N
37901 EPUK LESTER SD LESTER SD F N

ROG update

37501 GROG DERBY RTC 570H661608 F STRATFD A N
37510 GROG DERBY RTC 570R581608 F OLD DALBY N
37608 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37611 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37800 GROG WMBLY LHS 720O871608 F WIMBPDTSD N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N

Dan

 

[Trainman40083]

Good morning,
I have noticed that 37218 has been at rectory junction depot since July and I was wondering what work it is currently receiving at rectory junction. Any information would be appreciated.

I understand it will appear in the same livery as 37423

 

[43096]

I understand it will appear in the same livery as 37423

It seems a bit strange to be bringing that one back as ROG will be off-leasing some of their 37s.

 

[SEtrains]

I understand it will appear in the same livery as 37423

Thank you

 

[47286Dan]

Afternoon update

37501 GROG OLD DALBY 595Q771H13 V * BLETCHTMD N
37510 GROG BCSTMODGB BCSTMODGB F N
37608 GROG TYSELYLMD TYSELYLMD V N
37611 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37800 GROG WIMBPDTSD 875Q761H13 V * NEWPORTDK N
37884 GROG CDON EMDC 560Q581P13 F DERBY RTC N

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR X
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK BARRWHSD BARRWHSD E N
37901 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N

Dan

 

[ExRes]

37218 & 37901 top and tailed DCR spares donor 60060 from Leicester LIP to Bodens at Rectory Junction yesterday as 1450 0D92 with 37218 looking as though it's being prepped for relivery, 37901 is expected to work next Saturdays UK Railtours 'The Brick and Tile' with 50007 and 50008, 901 is due to join the train at Doncaster Down Decoy on its outward journey and then be detached there on the return

 

[D365]

Is 37218 in working order? Can’t remember whether or not it has worked for Europhoenix (or ROG) yet.

 

[DBS92042]

Is 37218 in working order? Can’t remember whether or not it has worked for Europhoenix (or ROG) yet.

It is yes and had previously worked for EPR prior to it's current stint at Colwick

 

[D365]

It is yes and had previously worked for EPR prior to it's current stint at Colwick

Thank you.

 

[47286Dan]

Location afternoon update

ROG
37501 GROG WMBLY LHS WMBLY LHS F N
37510 GROG BCSTMODGB BCSTMODGB F N
37608 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37611 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37800 GROG WMBLY LHS WMBLY LHS F N
37884 GROG NTHPTN FD 700J911P18 F NTHPTNCSD N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37423 EPUK DERBY LIT RECTRYJCR F N
37901 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N

Dan

 

[SEtrains]

Apparently 37611 is in the process of handback to europhoenix, any idea if this is actually true?

 

[Pkh72]

Yes it is, already debranded and awaiting hand back to europheonix

 

[SEtrains]

Yes it is, already debranded and awaiting hand back to europheonix

Thanks

 

[Rail Quest]

Apparently 37611 is in the process of handback to europhoenix, any idea if this is actually true?

Does this mean some of the 37s are surplus to requirement at ROG post-93 launch?

 

[SEtrains]

Does this mean some of the 37s are surplus to requirement at ROG post-93 launch?

Correct

 

[Adrian Barr]

ROG 37s out and about today (Mon 20/10/25)

37608 on 5Q65 Tyseley - Soho with 730003
37800 on 5Q76 Wimbledon - Newport Docks with 455718 + 455860
37884 on 5Q66 Gascoigne Wood - Soho with 730007 + 730009

Europheonix 37423 is consisted to 0D13 15:30 Rectory - Derby RTC

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Location update for Tue 21/10/25:

ROG

37501 - Rectory Jn (Colwick)
37510 - Bicester MoD
37608 - 5Q86 11:15 Long Marston to Eastleigh Works (hauling Mk5 set, 5 coaches)
37611 - Derby RTC
37800 - Derby RTC
37884 - 5Q58 12:36 Gascoigne Wood to Old Dalby (hauling unit 730207)

Europhoenix

37069 - Rectory Jn (Colwick)
37218 - Rectory Jn (Colwick)
37407 - Rectory Jn (Colwick)
37423 - Derby RTC
37901 - Rectory Jn (Colwick)

 

[47286Dan]

Wednesday morning update

ROG

37501 GROG WMBLY LHS RECTRYJCR N
37510 GROG BCSTMODGB BCSTMODGB F N
37608 GROG ELGHARLTN 860M212C22 F DERBY RTC N
37611 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37800 GROG DERBY LIT 575Q161F22 V * GASWDWSUS N
37884 GROG DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N

Europheonix

37069 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F D
37218 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N
37407 EPRL RECTRYJCR 550A071H22 F WMBLY LHS
37423 EPUK DERBY RTC DERBY RTC F N
37901 EPUK RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F N

Dan