Derailment at Ramsgate (29/11/24)

[alex397]

Great to see this now being worked on.

It has caused the unusual sight of Highspeed services stopping at Sturry and terminating at Minster.

 

[trainmania100]

Guessing this is out of the dirt now

 

[Waterlemon]

Guessing this is out of the dirt now

Not yet going off the milestones posted internally

 

[MichaelPlant99]

Still here at the moment

 

[800001]

any updates on progress?

 

[158747]

What's the gas cylinders for?

They are oxygen cylinders, in a later photograph there are also some propane cylinders with them, used for gas cutting.

 

[MichaelPlant99]

Looks like it was finally moved last night

, didn't get a video of it myself unfortunately

 

[MrB]

Southeastern Chief Exec has confirmed via Twitter/X that the unit has been moved, with some additional pictures

x.com

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Well done Eric and team for rerailing 395008. Great collaboration from @NetworkRailSE @Se_Railway @DBCargoUKhttps://x.com/DBCargoUK


We wanted to do this at Christmas but resources were redirected due to national priorities. Work completed this weekend allowing advance notice to customers

(images show various stages of the unit being re-railed/removed)

 

[Trainguy34]

Wonder where that's off to for repairs? Or can they do it at Ashford Depot?

 

[malc-c]

Uploaded today...

 

[eastwestdivide]

They start moving it at about 24:00 in the above vid

 

[Crossover]

Wonder where that's off to for repairs? Or can they do it at Ashford Depot?

I’ve read elsewhere that there is extensive damage the hydraulics on the leading coach and that it’s expected to go by road for repair at Hitachi Newton Aycliffe. Whether that is true or not though, I don’t know

 

[rower40]

But now it has to go off to some university or other, so that the archeologists can decode the ancient graffiti…
(Sorry, just a flippant comment on how long that set has been buried)

 

[GatwickDepress]

But now it has to go off to some university or other, so that the archeologists can decode the ancient graffiti…
(Sorry, just a flippant comment on how long that set has been buried)

There are plenty of javelins already in the British Museum though.

 

[Towers]

There are plenty of javelins already in the British Museum though.

Not many Japanese ones though!

 

[Deepgreen]

From the videos I have seen it looked quite a crude method of re-railing (but I imagine it was better than it looked). I was surprised no crane was used to lift it back onto the rails rather than dragging it and risking further damage.

 

[MotCO]

The rerailment has been captured on a couple of videos

The first video shows some preparatory work, laying new rails under the stricken carriage etc, and the second video shows the carriage being dragged back by a diesel engine onto the rails, although that was not without incident, with the heavy carriage sinking in the gravel, and some infrastructure (light on a pole?) having to be cut down.

 

[Deepgreen]

The more I think about this, the more amazed I am that it has been left there for so long! A whole unit out of service must have had an impact on service provision, and 'in the old days' a crane would have come in the next night (or even day) and shifted it. It has also been a very poor advert for the railway, languishing broken and seemingly abandoned to vandals.

 

[800001]

From the videos I have seen it looked quite a crude method of re-railing (but I imagine it was better than it looked). I was surprised no crane was used to lift it back onto the rails rather than dragging it and risking further damage.

They couldn’t use a crane, as mentioned numerous times on this thread, due to location of a road over bridge (where video filmed!), hence the crude method.

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The more I think about this, the more amazed I am that it has been left there for so long! A whole unit out of service must have had an impact on service provision, and 'in the old days' a crane would have come in the next night (or even day) and shifted it. It has also been a very poor advert for the railway, languishing broken and seemingly abandoned to vandals.

A crane couldn’t! If it could it would have weeks ago.

 

[BRX]

There are multiple videos of this on youtube but none of them seem to show them actually succeeding! Did they eventually get it on the rails after dark?

 

[800001]

There are multiple videos of this on youtube but none of them seem to show them actually succeeding! Did they eventually get it on the rails after dark?

They did succeed. There are videos of it being hauled slowly back through the Ramsgate station.

 

[Horizon22]

I’ve read elsewhere that there is extensive damage the hydraulics on the leading coach and that it’s expected to go by road for repair at Hitachi Newton Aycliffe. Whether that is true or not though, I don’t know

I would imagine it needs to go to a full Hitachi site for repairs, so that doesn't sound unreasonable.

 

[BRX]

They did succeed. There are videos of it being hauled slowly back through the Ramsgate station.

What I mean is that none of the videos seem to show the point at which the wheels got back onto the rails. It must have happened after the various people filming it had left.

 

[Jturner98]

I’ve watched them accident response people before with another train and it’s always amazing to watch them work.

 

[fgwrich]

I would imagine it needs to go to a full Hitachi site for repairs, so that doesn't sound unreasonable.

I did think this, since 008s last incident (with the DPD van where its repairs were carried out at Wolverton), Hitachi has opened up facilities at Eastleigh and Newton Aycliffe. Eastleigh could be a possible option if it can be slotted in between the IET repairs - they also have a paintshop and it is somewhat closer too.

 

[Towers]

I did think this, since 008s last incident (with the DPD van where its repairs were carried out at Wolverton), Hitachi has opened up facilities at Eastleigh and Newton Aycliffe. Eastleigh could be a possible option if it can be slotted in between the IET repairs - they also have a paintshop and it is somewhat closer too.

Does the Hitachi’s part of the Eastleigh site actually have general repair capabilities, as opposed to being set up purely as a sort of welding ‘production line’? I would have thought their workload is rather carefully planned out well into the future, with other TOCs likely to be a tad upset if the timescales are pushed back several months to allow unscheduled accident repairs to someone else’s rolling stock? But I’m only guessing!

 

[Pep and co]

Been a couple of months now since 395008 was rescued and I'm wondering what has happened to it since and where did it end up?

 

[Lee Bradfield]

Was on my usual journey up to London yesterday and as we passed Ashford there was a Class 395 that had been separated into different sections with one of the driving cars standing next to what looked like a low loader. Wondering if this is the one that had the accident at Ramsgate being taken away for repair. Thought this might be useful info for some of you.

 

[Trainguy34]

Most likely that one considering I doubt any others are out of service long-term enough to warrant a low-loader.

 

[Phil R]

Was on my usual journey up to London yesterday and as we passed Ashford there was a Class 395 that had been separated into different sections with one of the driving cars standing next to what looked like a low loader. Wondering if this is the one that had the accident at Ramsgate being taken away for repair. Thought this might be useful info for some of you.

For the avoidance of confusion, what you saw was four of the vehicles from 395008 having been moved from Ramsgate to Ashford. They aren't going anywhere else for now.