GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[CR165022]

Off-topic but I have wondered what would happen to that very early arrival at Paddington once (if) the 230s are fully signed off for the Greenford branch. It has a lot of staff (across various companies!) on it normally, so I imagine it wouldn't be canned and run back ECS or start another branch off or a 387 would be used instead.

If the 230 does enter service, wasn't the plan for the 165 to be kept spare all day? If that's the case I'd assume it would still run those Paddington services.

 

[Horizon22]

If the 230 does enter service, wasn't the plan for the 165 to be kept spare all day? If that's the case I'd assume it would still run those Paddington services.

Well it is a big if for the 230s according to the recent thread, but I don't think GWR can afford a 165 being "spare".

 

[800301]

Off-topic but I have wondered what would happen to that very early arrival at Paddington once (if) the 230s are fully signed off for the Greenford branch. It has a lot of staff (across various companies!) on it normally, so I imagine it wouldn't be canned and run back ECS or start another branch off or a 387 would be used instead.

The service can be worked by a 387 quite easily

 

[JN114]

The service can be worked by a 387 quite easily

Indeed it has been on occasion.

 

[Benjwri]

Well it is a big if for the 230s according to the recent thread, but I don't think GWR can afford a 165 being "spare".

The plan originally was definitely for a 165 to be spare. It isn’t ideal but also it’s no more requirement than there is now.

 

[CarltonA]

Another 165 failure at Slough this morning. The 0850 Windsor service was failed at Slough and headed off to Reading, hopefully a replacement was available.

 

[Siemens Staines]

It looks like GWR have planned to run a 165 in the paths of some of the cancelled XC services this afternoon.

1J18 1552 Reading to Basingstoke
1Z62 1648 Basingstoke to Oxford
1Z24 1817 Oxford to Basingstoke
1J74 1950 Basingstoke to Reading

 

[Siemens Staines]

I do not know whether this will actually come to pass, but currently 165121 is allocated to work vice 387 on a Reading - Newbury diagram which includes a trip to Paddington.

Realtime Trains | 1K15 1155 Newbury to London Paddington | 11/09/2025

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Realtime Trains | 1K14 1305 London Paddington to Newbury | 11/09/2025

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Presumably this is using the unit freed up by the Greenford service not operating this week.

 

[CarltonA]

I do not know whether this will actually come to pass, but currently 165121 is allocated to work vice 387 on a Reading - Newbury diagram which includes a trip to Paddington.


Presumably this is using the unit freed up by the Greenford service not operating this week.

That's interesting, there was a cancellation at Newbury yesterday, the 13:5X to Paddington. A Didcot was binned in the morning from Slough as well.

 

[Ashley Hill]

I do not know whether this will actually come to pass, but currently 165121 is allocated to work vice 387 on a Reading - Newbury diagram which includes a trip to Paddington.

Saw it in the bay at NBY this morning waiting to go to RDG.

 

[JN114]

Should make it to Paddington…

Swaps back to a 387 with the 1510 Reading Newbury, the Turbo goes off to Oxford to play up there for the afternoon.

Just a few morning struggles with 387s today so having the extra Turbo with no Greenford this week has helped. 387s could then concentrate on minimising short forms into Paddington off Didcots.

 

[800301]

165113 will be operating 1K26 1906 Pad-Bedwyn and return this evening for some reason

 

[Anonymous10]

165113 will be operating 1K26 1906 Pad-Bedwyn and return this evening for some reason

A 80x did strike a tree near Neath today and terminated at cardiff central, presumably this and other storm related issues has put units in the wrong place.

 

[387131]

165113 will be operating 1K26 1906 Pad-Bedwyn and return this evening for some reason

1A80 was running 60 late, due to the incident at Starcross today, 165113 did 1K26 / 1K35 to free up a 800 to shuffle and rebalanced the IET Fleet for End of service this evening.

It's rare to have a spare turbo, but with the North Downs half closed, it was rude not to take the opertunity to get RT starts from PAD and rebalanced the fleet.

 

[LUYMun]

IET 802012 failed at CDF so 165127 has been drafted to operate the Cardiff-Taunton services:

Realtime Trains | 2C75 1200 Cardiff Central to Taunton | 20/09/2025

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Realtime Trains | 2U22 1522 Taunton to Cardiff Central | 20/09/2025

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Realtime Trains | 2C87 1758 Cardiff Central to Plymouth | 20/09/2025

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[Wilts Wanderer]

Will be surprised if it makes it to Plymouth. Expect a further set swap back to 800 during the evening.

 

[LUYMun]

2C87 has been pathed from Bristol as an 80X so expect 165127 to terminate there.

 

[CR165022]

Its showing as 165127 to Exeter only, so presumably it'll get cancelled there unless they run an 80x down to swap it with.

 

[Steveswan10]

Thank you to whoever said about putting a specific unit number into RTT, I have now finally managed to see 165102 in Cardiff today after seeing where it would be-all class 165s and 166s seen

 

[Siemens Staines]

It looks like 165122 is having a spin out to Paddington this evening, vice IET

16:23 London Paddington to Oxford due 17:13 was started from Reading.
18:00 Oxford to London Paddington due 18:54
19:23 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:18
21:02 Oxford to London Paddington due 21:54
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

 

[800301]

It looks like 165122 is having a spin out to Paddington this evening, vice IET

16:23 London Paddington to Oxford due 17:13 was started from Reading.
18:00 Oxford to London Paddington due 18:54
19:23 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:18
21:02 Oxford to London Paddington due 21:54
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service.

No 800 available, kinda annoying I was driving that diagram yesterday, would have preferred a turbo as at least all the engines would have been working unlike the 800 I had

 

[LUYMun]

800004 now booked for 2218 PAD-OXF departure.

 

[Siemens Staines]

It looks like 165104 may be making a visit to Plymouth later today if its current allocation holds up and doesn't revert to an IET

2M04 0542 Exeter St Davids to Weston-super-Mare
2C63 0703 Weston-super-Mare to Exeter St Davids
2M10 0848 Exeter St Davids to Weston-super-Mare
2C70 1024 Weston-super-Mare to Exeter St Davids
2M14 1152 Exeter St Davids to Weston-super-Mare
2C76 1325 Weston-super-Mare to Taunton
2M28 1522 Taunton to Weston-super-Mare
2C82 1626 Weston-super-Mare to Exeter St Davids
3P81 1728 Exeter St Davids to Plymouth
2M42 1848 Plymouth to Weston-super-Mare
2C31 2136 Weston-super-Mare to Taunton
5C31 2214 Taunton to Stoke Gifford (to Bristol Temple Meads)

 

[CR165022]

Would that be the first time a 165 has made it to Plymouth if it does? I know 166221 has made it there but I don't recall a 165 going there.

 

[Ashley Hill]

I don’t know about 165s but 166204 also visited Plymouth on 04/3/24. Here’s a picture of it at Ivybridge.

 

[CR165022]

It does seem like it will be working the diagram all day though. "5C31 2214 Taunton to Stoke Gifford" has now become VST 5C31 to Exeter TMD.

 

[LUYMun]

165129 operated the 00:34 Paddington to Reading this morning due to driver not signing 387s for the route.

Realtime Trains | 2R85 0034 London Paddington to Reading | 19/10/2025

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[800301]

165129 operated the 00:34 Paddington to Reading this morning due to driver not signing 387s for the route.

Realtime Trains | 2R85 0034 London Paddington to Reading | 19/10/2025

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That wasn’t the reason, there was a lot of work uncovered yesterday, the turbo that comes off the Greenford had to go back to Reading anyway and it saved them cutting another late night service

 

[Siemens Staines]

A couple of off the beaten track turbo ECS moves are planned for Saturday evening between Reading and Guildford via Basingstoke and Woking

Realtime Trains | 3Z54 2029 Reading Traincare Depot to Guildford | 25/10/2025

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Realtime Trains | 5Z88 2235 Guildford to Reading Traincare Depot | 25/10/2025

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[MasterPhillips]

A couple of off the beaten track turbo ECS moves are planned for Saturday evening between Reading and Guildford via Basingstoke and Woking

Presumably due to Reading to Wokingham being closed from Saturday to Monday.