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Heard some 24***'s are going to Mansfield in exchange for 27***'s for hull
Also some Scottish 196**'s may be moving to hull to replace rest of the MANs that don't go to Mansfield
swinny1990
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Apparently that is true
Yes all MANs apparently have be out of hull by end of September bar the MAN E400's
Other news 19639 looks ready to enter service just needs logos added and next stop screens refitted which were removed when it broke
Also 19638 was driving around depot other day so may be back soon
Why have they all got to be out by end of September?
It will be good to see 19639 back on the road again after being out since last September and 19638 since January.
Zenneth101
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Not surprising really, 22759 sounds like a hoover now, MANs desperately needed replacing
As Mansfield only have so many E300s now, I think 27182-27186, 27193, 27200 and 27205 will likely replace the 8+ MANs that go to Mansfield (Which if done properly, you could fit 24161-4/83/86-88 into that slot). I'm a fan of Enviro 400s so the Scottish cascades sounds pretty nice to me but we'll see cos Stagecoach always end up changing plans.
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Thats good then, I wonder what took 19639 so long to get ready after its engine transplant the other month (tho I ain't a mechanic so idk how long that kind of thing takes)
Mansfield needs 3 extra runners all day for 6,7,16 frequency uplift (x30 to x20) on Monday 1st.Sept probably DDs in advance of electrics. Gainsborough needs one SD for Retford 47/A expansion with doubled daytime frequency, new peak service and evening timetable through to 11p.m. Worksop has two new schools (38,739) and Lincoln/Newark one (609B) all into Tuxford School and DDs I suspect. So altogether that’s 7 extra buses on the road in Notts from the start of September. Back in the Spring Newark got 2 extra SD for revised town services. DD buses off schools do some trips, presumably linked to driver duties.
JollyGood02
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Unlikely I'd imagine, that's what the DRT is for isn't it?
That would be my expectation. I don’t know why DRT is used evenings in Newark and Mansfield but normal service chosen for Retford. With a change in political leadership at Notts CC earlier this year maybe DRT is less favoured? I recall hearing that NCC policy was to convert subsidised daytime routes to DRT format if the area could not sustain hourly frequencies but that does not explain the approach to evenings. Personally in Mansfield I would prefer a pattern of fixed routes based on Sunday daytimes.
jamestaylor94
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Notice 24161 doing 250s since Saturday. Wonder if it’s a transfer or breakdown cover
26269 failed in Hull on Sat. Would presume it's running 250s so that 26269 will be moved to the bus park and take over from it when Hull have sorted it
I just saw Mansfield depot is meant to be demolished and rebuilt to support EV buses. Surely they can't do all that before January 2025 when the first lot is to arrive, and where would they store the buses ?
planning.org.uk
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Mansfield > 2025/0182/FUL > Bus Depot Sutton Road Mansfield Nottinghamshire NG18 5QH
DEMOLITION OF EXISTING BUS DEPOT AND ERECTION OF NEW GARAGE/WORKSHOP/OFFICE BUILDING, NEW TRIAGE AND WASHING FACILITIES AND NEW EV CHARGING FACILITES WITHIN THE SITE.
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jamestaylor94
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Also been alerted in Hull to a late chance requested by the council to service 61.
It was also now serve Woodcock Street, Witty Street and Havelock Street
It was also now serve Woodcock Street, Witty Street and Havelock Street
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That's interesting, as I've noticed Woodcock Street has bus stop flags, but it doesn't appear any services have served it for quite some time.
Thanks for posting. I didn’t know that. It looks as if it was submitted end of March, so five months ago. A Google trawl shows the paperwork you posted plus a brief report at that time in the local paper - then nothing. I would have expected the Council to have considered and decided by now, but no mention that I can find. It looks like a three phase plan and I guess that in part the depot could remain operational to some extent throughout, with some buses cascaded out in the meantime. Stagecoach seem good at finding parking places (e.g. Newark, Spalding). I might just take a stroll up Sutton Road and see what I can see.I just saw Mansfield depot is meant to be demolished and rebuilt to support EV buses. Surely they can't do all that before January 2025 when the first lot is to arrive, and where would they store the buses ?
This shows all of the drawings for the layout.Mansfield > 2025/0182/FUL > Bus Depot Sutton Road Mansfield Nottinghamshire NG18 5QH
DEMOLITION OF EXISTING BUS DEPOT AND ERECTION OF NEW GARAGE/WORKSHOP/OFFICE BUILDING, NEW TRIAGE AND WASHING FACILITIES AND NEW EV CHARGING FACILITES WITHIN THE SITE.
Thomas04
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Possibly here to replace 16965/16962 later this year?
Zenneth101
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24161 is operating out of Grimsby by the looks of it, its currently on Europarcs (1/2/20)
I wonder if this has any relation to the MANs apparently about to end their reign in Hull?
I wonder if this has any relation to the MANs apparently about to end their reign in Hull?
Thomas04
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Saw it in town debating wether on not to go on it lol
26269 failed on the 250 on Saturday and 24161 jumped on to replace it. Assume 26269 isn't ready yet as it has not reappeared. It was originally on the 51/250 diagram but swapped with 19207 to go onto the 1/2, with 19207 currently on the 250/51 diagram
It's now jumped back onto the 250/51 circuit so could be changing over later
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Swap has taken place, 24161 is now back with Hull
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Weird, it took Stagecoach Chesterfield around four months to do the work, which only included doing part of the depot. But Mansfield is meant to be getting demolished and redone before January, which I have no idea how they are going to pull off since they have to redo all that within the next five months unless they have pushed the construction plan up a bit just to give themselves breathing room or if they will somehow do this in such a short window.
Zenneth101
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True
19243 is still at Hull so maybe its replacement for 19239
19243 is still at Hull so maybe its replacement for 19239
It has come instead instead of 19239 which was originally due to transfer. 27789 also transferred to Scunthorpe last week.