Western 52
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67029 / 1Z99 seems to be taking a long time rescuing 1V42.
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Welshguy1048
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RTT has 1W96 as not left Cardiff yet....
Was due to depart about an hour ago....
Was due to depart about an hour ago....
37052 xb mr
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It’s gone through Newport
Western 52
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Traksy shows it near Cwmbran on the up line, presumably why up services are being held at Cardiff and Newport.
37052 xb mr
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On the move 106 minutes late
Welshguy1048
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MP393
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1Z99 was held at Cwmbran whilst the evacuation took place, once people & emergency services were clear of the line only then could 1Z99 proceed to rescue the stricken set, empty.
Western 52
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Makes sense. Transfer to buses presumably.
Still here. Now out of beer.
Anonymous10
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Has evacuation started?
BillStampy
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aar0 is on 1V46, 1V42 has already been evacuated and is running 5V42 to Canton. 1V46 is now on it's way to Newport 255 minutes late.
I am indeed. Just at Newport, now running to Cardiff. Some fairly miserable people with tickets to the Stereophonics gig tonight… Staff have been fantastic and I’m sure they’re all knackered!
Anonymous10
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Id be pretty gutted if I was them, they won't be getting their money back...
BillStampy
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Oh dear. Bravo to the staff for doing their best despite the manic situation. Can't imagine it was any better for those on 1V42!
Absolutely, nothing that could be done unfortunately.
Topological
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Hypothetically, would this have cleared quicker if it were an all 197 operation?
Potentially yes. But at the same time theres been 197 failures which have blocked the line for several hours too.
The performance though of the 67s during the warm weather is turning into a bit of a disaster, after a period of decent performance over the winter/spring, locos sitting down in traffic is getting a far far too common occurrence these past few weeks.
37052 xb mr
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1V33 - 67010 set 3
1V37 - 67012 set 6
1W13 - 197116
1W55 - 67008 set 4
1V37 - 67012 set 6
1W13 - 197116
1W55 - 67008 set 4
37052 xb mr
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Did 3 sets end up at Canton last night please ?
67008 set 4 ex 1V37
67015 set 7 ex 1V46 over 4 hours late
67020 set 5 ex 1V42 - Failed
Or did one of them come back north ?
Thanks
67008 set 4 ex 1V37
67015 set 7 ex 1V46 over 4 hours late
67020 set 5 ex 1V42 - Failed
Or did one of them come back north ?
Thanks
FrodshamJnct
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Plan for today:
D1 - 67010 Set HD03 (Loco CDF end)
*After Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.18 CRE CS - MAN 06.19)
1V33 06.27 Manchester - Cardiff 09.50
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.20
(5K65 ECS 22.36 MAN - CRE CS 23.22)
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D2 - 67012 Set HD06 (Loco MAN end)
*Via Styal*
(5V37 ECS 07.16 CRE CS - MAN 08.09)
1V37 8.30 Manchester - Cardiff 11.35
1W59 12.53 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Swansea 20.46
(5V50 ECS 21.11 SWA - CDF CS 22.32)
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D3 - *UNIT* 197116*
(5W13 ECS 04.08 CDF CS - SWA 05.10)
1W13 05.39 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.45
1W61 14.53 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.50
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D4 - 67008 Set HD04 (Loco MAN end)
1W55 08.54 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.43
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.13
*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.09)
D1 - 67010 Set HD03 (Loco CDF end)
*After Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.18 CRE CS - MAN 06.19)
1V33 06.27 Manchester - Cardiff 09.50
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.20
(5K65 ECS 22.36 MAN - CRE CS 23.22)
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D2 - 67012 Set HD06 (Loco MAN end)
*Via Styal*
(5V37 ECS 07.16 CRE CS - MAN 08.09)
1V37 8.30 Manchester - Cardiff 11.35
1W59 12.53 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Swansea 20.46
(5V50 ECS 21.11 SWA - CDF CS 22.32)
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D3 - *UNIT* 197116*
(5W13 ECS 04.08 CDF CS - SWA 05.10)
1W13 05.39 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.45
1W61 14.53 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.50
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D4 - 67008 Set HD04 (Loco MAN end)
1W55 08.54 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.43
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.13
*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.09)
Yes all finished in Cardiff. As things stand HD05/06/07 are all there tonight too so something sees likely to swap.
BillStampy
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Thought Canton only had capacity for 2 sets? Unless they've put one somewhere to fit in a third!
It does normally. Strangely HD07 is shown as at Crewe on a loco exam. Can't see how it's got there and shows in the system as at Cardiff. Strange.
67025 should head to Canton later to replace 67020 on HD05 ready for Monday, 01/03/05/06/07 should be out on Monday.
37052 xb mr
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Thanks
Any change to Sunday do we know?
Should still be the same, sets HD03 and HD06
Thanks
Topological
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Thanks for the honest answer.
Yesterday is an illustration of why it is useful if services can rescue the one in front / behind. (This is assuming a 197 can rescue a 197, though these days the technology side means even a physical connection might not be enough).
I know the 91s are no longer as reliable as they once were, but do the Mk4 on the ECML have door problems so often?
D6130
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On my return from Italy on 30/06/2025 I had a +22 late start on 1D17, 14 03 Kings Cross -Leeds due to a door fault on a Mk 4 vehicle.
The rescue loco was on the scene reasonably quickly yesterday. Some of the delay in getting it moved was down to controllers being inundated by calls on faulty and failed 197s around the network.
Door faults on Mk4s, whilst not unheard of are nowhere near the issue they once were. Some minor modifications were done a long while back which has seen a drastic reduction in door faults. Power supply, Static converters and air conditioning faults are their achilles heel at the moment.
37052 xb mr
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And Brakes !
67010 set 3 pine at Crewe on 1W57
1V46 Caped,
1W63 now a unit
1W65 67008 set 4
67025 has ran to Canton
Still 3 sets on Canton tonight ?
67010 set 3 pine at Crewe on 1W57
1V46 Caped,
1W63 now a unit
1W65 67008 set 4
67025 has ran to Canton
Still 3 sets on Canton tonight ?