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390 054 (11-car Pendolino)

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rail-britain

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Sounds like a diagram that operates Class 221 between Birmingham - Scotland is going to be handed over to Class 390
390054 will then operate exclusively between Scotland and Birmingham / Euston, presumably so that it visits Polmadie at least every second night
 

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Sounds like a diagram that operates Class 221 between Birmingham - Scotland is going to be handed over to Class 390
390054 will then operate exclusively between Scotland and Birmingham / Euston, presumably so that it visits Polmadie at least every second night

I would of thought that 390054 would work any VT pendolino diagram rather than trying to keep it specifically on one route.

Not sure what the significance of it visiting Polmadie every 2nd night is though.
 

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I would of thought that 390054 would work any VT pendolino diagram rather than trying to keep it specifically on one route.

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Does that make sense? Why would they use it on any 390 diagram? Effectively they'd still have one extra wouldn't they? Using it on BHM-Scotland means you save a voyager
 

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Does that make sense? Why would they use it on any 390 diagram? Effectively they'd still have one extra wouldn't they? Using it on BHM-Scotland means you save a voyager
Yes there is always going to be an additional Pendolino whichever way you look at it, all that is being suggested is that 390054 would operate any of the Pendo diagrams, and that any Pendo can operate the additional Birmingham to Scotland diagram, rather than 54 being dedicated to that particular diagram.
 

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Oh I see now
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Apparantly its starting on a Manchester diagram :)
 

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Apparantly Saturday on a diagram starting at Longsight and ending at Wembley :)
 

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Heard the same thing, dunno what time or what name is is going under though
I'm certainly curious to know if they are going to name the unit or not: There are a few "Virgin whatever" names going spare since their removal from other 390s in the past. Although if it remains unnamed then at least it acts as an additional means to identify it from a distance.
 

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I'm certainly curious to know if they are going to name the unit or not: There are a few "Virgin whatever" names going spare since their removal from other 390s in the past. Although if it remains unnamed then at least it acts as an additional means to identify it from a distance.

Hasn't got Virgin logos on the cabs either at the moment, instead it says ALSTOM PENDOLINO as shown in the pic. Altough I thought it had the word NEW as well before Pendolino.
 

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I'm certainly curious to know if they are going to name the unit or not: There are a few "Virgin whatever" names going spare since their removal from other 390s in the past. Although if it remains unnamed then at least it acts as an additional means to identify it from a distance.

Well they have done a bit of moving around because 390001, which was Virgin Pioneer, is now being called 101 Squadron, which is what 390045 is called.

But 390045 is staying as 101 Squadron!

huh?
 

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Hasn't got Virgin logos on the cabs either at the moment, instead it says ALSTOM PENDOLINO as shown in the pic. Altough I thought it had the word NEW as well before Pendolino.
That's a good point, the big vinyls at the cab ends had slipped my mind. I'm fairly sure that those vinyls originally read "Alstom New 11-car Pendolino" when it was delivered but that they have since been altered now that it is going to be running around as a nine car unit.
 

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Well they have done a bit of moving around because 390001, which was Virgin Pioneer, is now being called 101 Squadron, which is what 390045 is called.

But 390045 is staying as 101 Squadron!

huh?

Lolwut?! :lol:

I see what you mean about two having the same name...and 001 must have been changed relatively recently?

That's a good point, the big vinyls at the cab ends had slipped my mind. I'm fairly sure that those vinyls originally read "Alstom New 11-car Pendolino" when it was delivered but that they have since been altered now that it is going to be running around as a nine car unit.

Yeah, on delivery it said 11-car Pendolino. When me and a few other saw it last Friday in 9 car form it just said New Pendolino and now it is as the most recent picture suggests from the Virgin pressroom.

Last Friday it was still lacking its Virgin badge from the front, although they have been designed with it in mind as there is a recess for it!
 
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Also, is 390054 not also missing the Virgin shield at each nose end and the First Class vinyls (1 and First Class)
 

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Also, is 390054 not also missing the Virgin shield at each nose end and the First Class vinyls (1 and First Class)

Yes, although I have no idea if this will be sorted for it's entry into service....next week....!
 

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I heard it is to show tomorrow- I want to get it before the normals wreck it!
 

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I'm assuming no one has any idea what diagram 054 is running tomorrow, apart from it starting from Longsight?

I'd be tempted to get a MAN to SOT or MAN to CRE VT Only SOR and use FC on it.
 

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:lol:

I could even get it sometime soon without specifically booking a train to go on 054. :)
 

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054 is booked to do 3 return trips from Man Picc to Euston on 16/07/11. Departing Manchester at 07:15 , 12:35 and 17:55, departing Euston at 10:00 , 15:20 and 21:00.
 
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