Stagecoach East Midlands - Timetables, Services, & Wider Operations

[CN12 AWU]

19489 is meant to be a Gainsborough vehicle and 19509 a Worksop vehicle so they shouldn't have moved over from Scunthorpe unless plans have changed. Both have valid MOTs until Feb and April so it won't be that. I suspect one of the older vehicles is 19009, it was pictured in Scunthorpe on the day the ex-Gainsborough MMC's moved over to Grimsby and has not been in service since, so imagine it was left there for disposal/storage.

No one said 19509 ... 19501 is the other apparently both be out tomorrow and there 4 to 6 more E400's apparently coming to hull in next couple weeks presume there withdrawn ones from Scunthorpe/Grimsby or Lincoln but who knows

I can only go off the info I had passed to me

 

[K13R0N]

No one said 19509 ... 19501 is the other apparently both be out tomorrow and there 4 to 6 more E400's apparently coming to hull in next couple weeks presume there withdrawn ones from Scunthorpe/Grimsby or Lincoln but who knows

I can only go off the info I had passed to me

Ah, forgive me, I meant 19501!

 

[CN12 AWU]

Ah, forgive me, I meant 19501!

As said I can only go off the info passed to me by a friend who works at the depot, I used to work there but now work in South Wales

He doesn't use forums but passes me info to post on here

 

[jimbob185]

Update 19101 is still in hull however 19489/19501 are supposedly 2 others my source checked the depot when he finished however when he started 3 old 19's were there so looks like either couple of extras or been swapped he unsure unless 19489/501 are in for MOT

Both 19489 and 19501 in service in Hull today

 

[CN12 AWU]

10736 is back in service in hull I believe its been called back due to issues with the 19*** they recieved

 

[K13R0N]

10736 is back in service in hull I believe its been called back due to issues with the 19*** they recieved

Believe 10734 is back too, it's tracking anyway

 

[SteveyBee131]

Don't remember it being mentioned in the list of imminent withdrawals, but 19073 is round the back of Grimsby depot with various bits removed. It's parked along with 19011 (which was on the list) and an ALX400 bodied Trident which I couldn't see the number of, but is definitely giving away parts.

I'm no expert and don't have inside knowledge, but 19073 would appear to be either withdrawn or a longer term project of some sort (like 21263 was some months ago).

 

[K13R0N]

Don't remember it being mentioned in the list of imminent withdrawals, but 19073 is round the back of Grimsby depot with various bits removed. It's parked along with 19011 (which was on the list) and an ALX400 bodied Trident which I couldn't see the number of, but is definitely giving away parts.

I'm no expert and don't have inside knowledge, but 19073 would appear to be either withdrawn or a longer term project of some sort (like 21263 was some months ago).

I believe it's on Grimsby's withdrawal list which the last time I saw (unofficial list however) consisted of 19007/9/11/45/61/73 and 21270/73.

Of that list, 19007 and 21270 are still in active passenger use.

 

[CN12 AWU]

I believe 19101 arrived at hull with dests removed and missing saloon seats, hull fitted seats and replacement seats out of a withdrawn MAN before it entered service so I wonder if hull may keep that one

Apparently 22755 is now withdrawn and partly stripped

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Don't remember it being mentioned in the list of imminent withdrawals, but 19073 is round the back of Grimsby depot with various bits removed. It's parked along with 19011 (which was on the list) and an ALX400 bodied Trident which I couldn't see the number of, but is definitely giving away parts.

I'm no expert and don't have inside knowledge, but 19073 would appear to be either withdrawn or a longer term project of some sort (like 21263 was some months ago).

I believe the ALX400 is 18449

 

[SteveyBee131]

I believe the ALX400 is 18449

After a look at photos of ALX400s with East Midlands now and recently trying to look for distinguishing features (yes, I know I'm sad!), I think I would agree.

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

After a look at photos of ALX400s with East Midlands now and recently trying to look for distinguishing features (yes, I know I'm sad!), I think I would agree.

I did the same lol, it's the high-backed seats that give it away!

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In other news 19318 (FJ07 OSZ) was in the yard at Grimsby garage when I passed this afternoon.

 

[K13R0N]

Many of Grimsby's Enviro 400s (19013/14/15/17/18/44/45/50/52/61) are due to move into Reserve and 19073 is going for disposal. Does anyone know when the 5 Enviro 400s from Skegness (19195/6/200/206/10) will be arriving as I presume these are their replacements?

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Many of Grimsby's Enviro 400s (19013/14/15/17/18/44/45/50/52/61) are due to move into Reserve and 19073 is going for disposal. Does anyone know when the 5 Enviro 400s from Skegness (19195/6/200/206/10) will be arriving as I presume these are their replacements?

19045, 19061 and 19073 have already been withdrawn (045 is nicely parked just inside the garage doorway should anyone want a photo!) so I'm guessing they have been replaced by some of the assortment that have arrived already.
According to bustimes (usual disclaimer) most of the Skegness ones are still in use there, although 19210 hasn't run since December.
I've been keeping an eye out in case bustimes is wrong but I haven't seen any yet apart from already -reported 19207.

 

[K13R0N]

19045, 19061 and 19073 have already been withdrawn (045 is nicely parked just inside the garage doorway should anyone want a photo!) so I'm guessing they have been replaced by some of the assortment that have arrived already.
According to bustimes (usual disclaimer) most of the Skegness ones are still in use there, although 19210 hasn't run since December.
I've been keeping an eye out in case bustimes is wrong but I haven't seen any yet apart from already -reported 19207.

Yeah I've been keeping tabs on Skeg's use of them and they dont seem to be out of use just yet. 19533 and 19207 have seen limited use since they arrive, think there are some issues there. 19318 has come a long way from Worksop so I think it may either be a loan if we are short of buses or a transfer to replace the early E3 tridents.

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Yeah I've been keeping tabs on Skeg's use of them and they dont seem to be out of use just yet. 19533 and 19207 have seen limited use since they arrive, think there are some issues there. 19318 has come a long way from Worksop so I think it may either be a loan if we are short of buses or a transfer to replace the early E3 tridents.

Yes, 19207 was visible in the garage for a couple of days but isn't now, so possibly it's in the workshop??
It doesn't help that the tracking on bustimes is so erratic...19531 has done a full diagram today but stopped tracking at 0520, 19044 passed me in service earlier but hasn't tracked today and 19172 is finally tracking again having been in stealth mode for weeks!!
It makes it difficult to know what is not out or just not tracking and in the meantime the dog is sick of being walked past the garage

 

[K13R0N]

Yes, 19207 was visible in the garage for a couple of days but isn't now, so possibly it's in the workshop??
It doesn't help that the tracking on bustimes is so erratic...19531 has done a full diagram today but stopped tracking at 0520, 19044 passed me in service earlier but hasn't tracked today and 19172 is finally tracking again having been in stealth mode for weeks!!
It makes it difficult to know what is not out or just not tracking and in the meantime the dog is sick of being walked past the garage

Yeah it appears some of the routes are not tracking, the 1,2,3,4, 11 and 12 which has made it a pain to see what is out. I wanted to see which E400MMCs were out and can only see 1!

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Yeah it appears some of the routes are not tracking, the 1,2,3,4, 11 and 12 which has made it a pain to see what is out. I wanted to see which E400MMCs were out and can only see 1!

I saw two when I was out and about, 10897 correctly tracking on 6s/8s etc and 10896 not tracking on the 2

 

[SteveyBee131]

Yeah it appears some of the routes are not tracking, the 1,2,3,4, 11 and 12 which has made it a pain to see what is out. I wanted to see which E400MMCs were out and can only see 1!

The problematic tracking made it tricky today! In the end I gave up trying with it and just did a good old fashioned 'wait and see what turns up!' Saw 10898 on the early afternoon 2 board, and 10900 on the 13:17 №11. 19393 was on the 3 & 4 circuit, and already mentioned 531 was on one of the 5 boards. 19007 is still earning her keep and sounds lovely as ever, among others!

 

[CN12 AWU]

I have been informed by my source at hull they are keeping 19501 and 19489 (2 of the 3 were in service today one on 12's and one on 5's I believe 19101 was having work done this morning before moving to Worksop)

I also been informed 4 to 6 more of 19101 older E400 sisters are due at Hull from where they been finished at Scunthorpe and Grimsby, these will give enough spares until electrics arrive mid to late 2025

 

[jimbob185]

I have been informed by my source at hull they are keeping 19501 and 19489 (2 of the 3 were in service today one on 12's and one on 5's I believe 19101 was having work done this morning before moving to Worksop)

I also been informed 4 to 6 more of 19101 older E400 sisters are due at Hull from where they been finished at Scunthorpe and Grimsby, these will give enough spares until electrics arrive mid to late 2025

According to Trident the Bear on X 19175 is also due from Lincoln

 

[CN12 AWU]

Just been informed 36708 is now in Hull Depot

Not sure if it's for service or if it's in for MOT

 

[K13R0N]

Drove past Grimsby depot a few minutes ago and I believe (however cannot confirm) I saw an E400 in the main garage with a wheelchair icon near the destination display which leads me to believe it could be one of the FX60s originally new to Hull. Not certain however as I was moving.

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Just been informed 36708 is now in Hull Depot

Not sure if it's for service or if it's in for MOT

Yeah it has a valid MOT certificate issued today

 

[swinny1990]

Anyone know the last day of the tridents in the east midlands?

 

[CN12 AWU]

According to Trident the Bear on X 19175 is also due from Lincoln

I suspect it will be spare with the others listed and could go anywhere, my source says hull are due 4 more E400's to join 19501 and its sister

 

[JD2168]

ALX400's 18317 & 18433 are still in use from Gainsborough depot, I saw them both on 99 on Thursday.

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Drove past Grimsby depot a few minutes ago and I believe (however cannot confirm) I saw an E400 in the main garage with a wheelchair icon near the destination display which leads me to believe it could be one of the FX60s originally new to Hull. Not certain however as I was moving.

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Yeah it has a valid MOT certificate issued today

Appears to be 19383 formerly of Scunthorpe.
Did a morning school journey from Scunthorpe on Friday and then appears to have been run to Grimsby.
The wheelchair icon is more prominent than it looks in the picture, the lighting wasn't great!
Photo below shows 19383 (NK58 AEX) in Grimsby garage on Sunday 19th January, taken from the public pavement.

 

[K13R0N]

Appears to be 19383 formerly of Scunthorpe.
Did a morning school journey from Scunthorpe on Friday and then appears to have been run to Grimsby.
The wheelchair icon is more prominent than it looks in the picture, the lighting wasn't great!
Photo below shows 19383 (NK58 AEX) in Grimsby garage on Sunday 19th January, taken from the public pavement.

Cracking - cheers for confirming!

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

19115 is running with the number 11570 on the nearside skirt panel next to the rear wheel. I assumed it had been repaired with a panel off another bus, but it seems there never has been an 11570....odd!!

 

[K13R0N]

19115 is running with the number 11570 on the nearside skirt panel next to the rear wheel. I assumed it had been repaired with a panel off another bus, but it seems there never has been an 11570....odd!!

I believe (however someone in the industry may be able to explain better than me!) that some vehicles have a number on the nearside that shows the vehicle's weight? It may well be that