Stagecoach East Midlands - Timetables, Services, & Wider Operations

[Pyewipecarshed]

I'm by no means an expert (!) and this is purely guessing, but perhaps it's been given a spare ticket machine which hasn't been set up with bus fleet number, GPS tracking etc. 19007 and 19009 both weren't tracking reliably if at all recently, so if it's inherited the machine from either of those it could be another possible explanation.

Quite possibly! 19172 hasn't tracked since 18th December but has been in almost daily service, I saw it earlier in Cleethorpes on the 6/8 circuit, so again any of those explanations are possible.

 

[jimbob185]

I'm not in hull so don't know, this has come from a driver there who is also a enthusiast and can normally trust him

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If I'm honest I don't get why it be tracking as 19121 that bus shouldn't even be on there machine file as it's not a Hull bus

It's like 22614 been tracking as 22635 which is withdrawn in depot in bits from what I been told

And 19377 god knows what that's been tracking as but today was 19379 as my friend wanted 379 on his duty but 377 appeared instead

Also still unaware what 19382 tracking as currently


Also other news 19639 is in paint shop for refurb and repaint (like 10738 was) as it's now gained a new engine and gearbox

10738 is getting work done to complete it from my source it includes blue bars new flooring, next stop audio and white LEDs same way as newer MMCs

Thanks for the info. 19121 was a Hull bus up to about mid October 2023 before moving to Lincoln so could be something to do with that maybe? It was definitely 10741 SN66 VXJ tracking as it 19121 as I saw it today.

I haven’t seen what was tracking as 19379 today so can’t confirm but it was 19379 on Friday but could have changed since then like 10741 was tracking fine up til end of the day Sunday.

I also heard 22635 was withdrawn and nothing has tracked as it on bustimes since it arrived in Hull so wouldn’t know if it’s 22614 or not.

I did hear that 19639 was getting a new engine and gearbox and being repainted in new navy livery.

I did wonder why 10738 hadn’t managed to get back into service yet when it had been back from repaint for a few weeks now. But will be looking forward to seeing it once it is out.

 

[Fox192]

Thanks for the info. 19121 was a Hull bus up to about mid October 2023 before moving to Lincoln so could be something to do with that maybe? It was definitely 10741 SN66 VXJ tracking as it 19121 as I saw it today.

I haven’t seen what was tracking as 19379 today so can’t confirm but it was 19379 on Friday but could have changed since then like 10741 was tracking fine up til end of the day Sunday.

I also heard 22635 was withdrawn and nothing has tracked as it on bustimes since it arrived in Hull so wouldn’t know if it’s 22614 or not.

I did hear that 19639 was getting a new engine and gearbox and being repainted in new navy livery.

I did wonder why 10738 hadn’t managed to get back into service yet when it had been back from repaint for a few weeks now. But will be looking forward to seeing it once it is out.

Is it right that the seats are a darker grey

 

[jimbob185]

Is it right that the seats are a darker grey

I haven’t seen what they are like but would expect similar colour to the seats on 11716 at Stagecoach Yorkshire

 

[K13R0N]

10899 may not be far from it's return to service (out since Oct 24). Flickr photo attached shows it below in the new IC livery

Stagecoach 10899 Newly Repainted into interconnect

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[CN12 AWU]

Is it right that the seats are a darker grey

Yes can't remember now if there dark grey or Dark Blue but deffinatly nothing like the light blue new orders come in

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Apparently 19175 and 3 other buses are due at Hull can't confirm but 19175 is apparently arrived there already

Can anyone confirm please

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

19393 is in traffic in Grimsby today on the 3/4 routes but not tracking, and 19531 is in the garage.

 

[CN12 AWU]

Apparently 19175, 36059 and 27762 all been noted in Hull Depot today been told by my source there for service but may be MOT he not currently sure

 

[K13R0N]

Apparently 19175, 36059 and 27762 all been noted in Hull Depot today been told by my source there for service but may be MOT he not currently sure

19175 has a valid MOT certificate from an MOT that was completed today

 

[jimbob185]

Apparently 19175, 36059 and 27762 all been noted in Hull Depot today been told by my source there for service but may be MOT he not currently sure

19175 has a valid MOT certificate from an MOT that was completed today

Same with 36059 and 27762 so all had MOT today

 

[CN12 AWU]

Same with 36059 and 27762 so all had MOT today

My friend at the depot was hoping all 3 were for service all 3 were apparently on the depot plan today usually MOT buses don't get listed that's why he thought they may be Hulls

 

[Fox192]

Don’t understand why hull would want yet more single decks.

Supposedly passenger numbers increasing, each time I get on a single deck it’s very busy sometimes standing, unless I just get unlucky.

Also the main routes for singles I think are 21/61/16/40 but then you will get doubles on them and then singles on number 1 or something.

Also is there any need apart from adding a bit of different colour for the park and ride buses to be painted as they are never on the park and ride.

 

[jimbob185]

My friend at the depot was hoping all 3 were for service all 3 were apparently on the depot plan today usually MOT buses don't get listed that's why he thought they may be Hulls

36059 definitely shouldn't be staying as in the latest fleet card it is listed as moving from Skegness to Gainsborough.

 

[CN12 AWU]

36059 definitely shouldn't be staying as in the latest fleet card is it listed as moving from Skegness to Gainsborough.

Yeah and there nothing due to move to Hull bar 26255 I think on that fleet list (or am I wrong?)

 

[jimbob185]

Yeah and there nothing due to move to Hull bar 26255 I think on that fleet list (or am I wrong?)

Yes that all but it is missing all the Manchester transfers as I think they happened to late for this fleet card so any other movements related to that won't be listed

 

[CN12 AWU]

Yes that all but it is missing all the Manchester transfers as I think they happened to late for this fleet card

None of them were ever coming to Hull, told false info origionally

But apparently hull are very short of buses and need some so I don't know what's going on

Apparently 26255 is meant to be going 350 livery but that short of buses it's stuck in service

 

[jimbob185]

None of them were ever coming to Hull, told false info origionally

But apparently hull are very short of buses and need some so I don't know what's going on

Apparently 26255 is meant to be going 350 livery but that short of buses it's stuck in service

I think most depots are short so they probably cant spare anything like I presume Skegness are still short as they still have 19211.

 

[CN12 AWU]

And

I think most depots are short so they probably cant spare anything like I presume Skegness are still short as they still have 19211.

Scunthorpe 19383 as That like 19211 are hull buses

Good news I believe 19379 was out today as its own manchine

But 19377 was not tracking and neither was 19382 however I believe both were in service

10741 still tracking as 19121

I believe both 22635/22638 are withdrawn seen photos of 22635 but not 638 yet

22614 is finally tracking as itself so looks like some buses have been corrected

 

[jimbob185]

And

Scunthorpe 19383 as That like 19211 are hull buses

Good news I believe 19379 was out today as its own manchine

But 19377 was not tracking and neither was 19382 however I believe both were in service

10741 still tracking as 19121

I believe both 22635/22638 are withdrawn seen photos of 22635 but not 638 yet

22614 is finally tracking as itself so looks like some buses have been corrected

I thought 19383 was a transfer to Scunthorpe for 19377 as was listed in the period 5 fleet card.
19379 was on its own machine today as I saw it today.
Hull never had 22638 do you mean 22639?

 

[K13R0N]

And

Scunthorpe 19383 as That like 19211 are hull buses

Good news I believe 19379 was out today as its own manchine

But 19377 was not tracking and neither was 19382 however I believe both were in service

10741 still tracking as 19121

I believe both 22635/22638 are withdrawn seen photos of 22635 but not 638 yet

22614 is finally tracking as itself so looks like some buses have been corrected

19383 is supposed to transfer to Grimsby from Scunny

 

[CN12 AWU]

I thought 19383 was a transfer to Scunthorpe for 19377 as was listed in the period 5 fleet card.
19379 was on its own machine today as I saw it today.
Hull never had 22638 do you mean 22639?

22635 is stripped in hull depot
22639 is in service but sure 22638 was also due to arrive at Hull (could be getting mixed up)

19377 was always meant to be a hull bus as was another Scottish E400 but it went scunthorpe

19383 last I heard was on loan to Scunny from Hull and 19211 on loan to Skegness from hull but this may have changed

 

[Fox192]

Is there any actual plan to sort the bus shortage

 

[CN12 AWU]

Is there any actual plan to sort the bus shortage

I suspect be those new electrics later this year as that should resolve the matter unless they start transferring buses out

 

[K13R0N]

Some of the vehicles from Manchester are now starting to track on bustimes.org

11173 at Gainsborough
11739/40/42 at Skegness
19393 at Grimsby
19509 at Worksop

There seems to have been a glitch on the website overnight where several EM vehicles ticket machines recognised Stagecoach routes across the country (e.g. 19197 picked up a route from Kettering!)

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10899 is in the main garage at Grimsby and in base new InterConnect livery with no branding (as far as I could see). Passed Victoria Street depot on the way to work this morning and spotted it behind Hattie the Seasider

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Some of the vehicles from Manchester are now starting to track on bustimes.org

11173 at Gainsborough
11739/40/42 at Skegness
19393 at Grimsby
19509 at Worksop

There seems to have been a glitch on the website overnight where several EM vehicles ticket machines recognised Stagecoach routes across the country (e.g. 19197 picked up a route from Kettering!)

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10899 is in the main garage at Grimsby and in base new InterConnect livery with no branding (as far as I could see). Passed Victoria Street depot on the way to work this morning and spotted it behind Hattie the Seasider

I can confirm 10899 is unbranded at the moment.
Photo shows 10899 in Grimsby garage on 10th January 2025 with Lincoln depot's Enviro 200MMC 37461 poking into the shot on the left (my photo, taken from the public pavement)

 

[K13R0N]

Lincoln's 37462 and Grimsby's 26275 have swapped this evening following the formers breakdown in Grimsby earlier this week

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

Unusual resident of Grimsby depot today, Sunday 12th January in the form of Hull's MAN/Enviro 300 24197. It appears to have taken over a 250 from 26256 in the Hessle area yesterday and ended up in Grimsby overnight.
(Photo shows vehicle 24197 in Grimsby garage, my photo taken from the public pavement)

 

[CN12 AWU]

Unusual resident of Grimsby depot today, Sunday 12th January in the form of Hull's MAN/Enviro 300 24197. It appears to have taken over a 250 from 26256 in the Hessle area yesterday and ended up in Grimsby overnight.
(Photo shows vehicle 24197 in Grimsby garage, my photo taken from the public pavement)

I believe 26255 may be getting swapped tomorrow for 24197 and hull keeping 26256 for the 350 instead as it can be used

That's what I been informed by my source at Hull not sure how true however

Apparently 26255 couldnt swap as it was on 111's

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I believe 26255 may be getting swapped tomorrow for 24197 and hull keeping 26256 for the 350 instead as it can be used

That's what I been informed by my source at Hull not sure how true however

Apparently 26255 couldnt swap as it was on 111's

Same time I don't believe it as 26255 is on 111's today

 

[Pyewipecarshed]

I believe 26255 may be getting swapped tomorrow for 24197 and hull keeping 26256 for the 350 instead as it can be used

That's what I been informed by my source at Hull not sure how true however

Apparently 26255 couldnt swap as it was on 111's

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Same time I don't believe it as 26255 is on 111's today

It's possible, though according to bustimes 24197 took over the Hull-bound journey 30 minutes late on Boothferry Road, Hessle. It then worked back out on the delayed 1825 to Grimsby which it worked throughout.
Assuming the tracking is correct it suggests that 26256 broke down or experienced some other issue rather than being a planned changeover.
However Hull may well keep 256 and send 255 back in its place, as 256 is in a more useful livery. I guess we'll see in the morning!!

 

[CN12 AWU]

It's possible, though according to bustimes 24197 took over the Hull-bound journey 30 minutes late on Boothferry Road, Hessle. It then worked back out on the delayed 1825 to Grimsby which it worked throughout.
Assuming the tracking is correct it suggests that 26256 broke down or experienced some other issue rather than being a planned changeover.
However Hull may well keep 256 and send 255 back in its place, as 256 is in a more useful livery. I guess we'll see in the morning!!

Same time there was talks of some 24's or 22's transferring out that never happened

So we will see what happens tbh suprised they sent 24197 surly 27195/881 or the other E300 integral at Hull would have been a better choice