Bletchleyite
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Realtime Trains says it's LHCS.
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TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc
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It does but TFW has said no first class today which implies none of the MK4's are out. So I wondered if it was an error.
Lewisham2221
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Presumably because, with the current state of play, they can't be certain which units are going to operate which bits of which services, so it's easier to advertise no FC than to advertise incorrectly or have to keep changing things.
Fair point. I assume if its a MK4 they must be confident it can run to Crewe/Manchester and the line is going to reopen soon?
BillStampy
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Was allocated as a double dogbox earlier, automatically flagging it as non-first class, seems to have swapped out to HD04, originally misallocated to HD03!
Believe the idea now one is out is to have that finish at Crewe tonight then at least everything balances for the morning with 2 sets in Crewe, a set in Holyhead and one plus a spare at Canton.
37052 xb mr
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Topological
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A single 153 substituting for the Mk4 on the 0435 from Cardiff must be a first.
Do we know what will form the 1249 from Cardiff?
I can see a 2-car 197 is substituting for the 1052 (1W57)
Do we know what will form the 1249 from Cardiff?
I can see a 2-car 197 is substituting for the 1052 (1W57)
I'm sure anything went this morning just to run some form if service.
1249 is now expected to be HD03 so slowly bringing things back to normal.
37052 xb mr
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It was actually 2 x 153s
yes 67012 Set 3, 1W19 & 1V50
Rest as units to keep the sets balanced
37052 xb mr
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67013 back at Crewe
67016 going other way back to Toton
With 67005
67016 going other way back to Toton
With 67005
Topological
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Thanks both.
I was just happy that there was still the early morning train from Hereford to Cardiff so I could get to Manchester. I would never normally choose to take CrossCountry, but was grateful to be offered an itinerary via Newport and Bristol Parkway.
An interesting aside is that RTT was showing trains going to Hereford, but National Rail still showed Manchester as the destination for 1W11 and 1W12 at 04:30 this morning. Usually National Rail has the Wilmslow turnarounds before RTT does.
67029+HD02 are planned a shakedown run this afternoon to Newport and back on https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:18045/2024-10-17/detailed#allox_id=0
if that's successful is planned back into service on 08:49 Cardiff to Manchester and 12:30 return. It'll then stable at Canton to be one of the Cardiff starts on Saturday.
HD06 is on repair at Crewe, HD05 on exam and HD07 heading back to ATC following tyre turning so only 1 set can finish in Crewe tomorrow night.
if that's successful is planned back into service on 08:49 Cardiff to Manchester and 12:30 return. It'll then stable at Canton to be one of the Cardiff starts on Saturday.
HD06 is on repair at Crewe, HD05 on exam and HD07 heading back to ATC following tyre turning so only 1 set can finish in Crewe tomorrow night.
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BillStampy
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HD02 has finished it's run, back on Canton. So we'll have HD04 on a Manchester 1V33/1W19/1V50 start tomorrow, HD01 on Holyhead starter 1V91/1W57/1V46/1W65, HD03 1W11/1V37/1W96 and HD02 hopefully working 1W55/1V42 tomorrow, correct?
Yes that looks to be correct.
A slight change now in that HD02 will continue on 1W23, instead HD01 will stay in Canton rather than work 1W65.
If all goes to plan
tomorrow will now have 67015+HD01 and 67020+HD04 will be on Cardiff starts, 67029+HD02 and 67014+HD07 on Crewe starts.
HD06 is planned a test run following dragging brake repairs and if successful should be in service on Monday replacing HD01 and 02 which will stop for a couple of days for exams, 01 Sunday and Monday then 02 Tuesday and Wednesday.
Sunday will be 67013+HD02 (after a loco swap) on Crewe diagram and 67014+HD07 on the Cardiff one.
67010 has also been out on test today so if that's successful it should be back with TfW soon.
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37052 xb mr
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67013 out on test as well 0Z20
67010 0Z67
67010 0Z67
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Jacob Porrett
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Today at Crewe depot (18/10/24):
HD05
HD06
HD07 connected to 67014
HD05
HD06
HD07 connected to 67014
BillStampy
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1W96 67012 + HD03 terminated at Abergavenny, journeycheck says Fault on train yet RTT says leaves on line. Can anyone confirm the reason?
37052 xb mr
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Guessing it’s a Set issue
It’s currently on its way back to
Canton ECS as 5W96,
Although 1V50 appears to be sat at Abergavenny too !
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BillStampy
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JourneyCheck shows passenger disturbance onboard.
1W96 slipped to a stand on Llanvihangel bank. Is down as poor rail conditions rather than train fault.
1V50 is a large group of unruly passengers awaiting BTP attendance.
37052 xb mr
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Thanks
Some people are just so inconsiderate. Because of them the train will be terminated at Cardiff causing delays and massive inconvenience for everyone else!
Western 52
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37052 xb mr
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67029 1V34 started at Crewe
No ECS to Manchester
67015
1W13 Only got to Nantwich
Due to 153382 failed on 2K47
1V39 starting at Nantwich
No ECS to Manchester
67015
1W13 Only got to Nantwich
Due to 153382 failed on 2K47
1V39 starting at Nantwich
BillStampy
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67029 + HD02 no longer in service, sat on Canton
67014 + HD07 filling in to get to Crewe
37052 xb mr
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67029 Set 2 now disappeared
2 units in play
2 units in play
BillStampy
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I'm assuming the mixup of 67029 and HD02 wil result in different sets on the diagrams tomorrow?
My guesses are:
67020 + HD04 Cardiff loop
67014 + HD07 Crewe loop
My guesses are:
67020 + HD04 Cardiff loop
67014 + HD07 Crewe loop
Good guess, that looks to be the plan.
Plus HD06 is planned out on another attempt at it's test run.
HD01 is now stopped for a light exam.