Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[Verulamius]

Will the 810s be impacted by the discussions over the Avanti 805s and 807s and speed supervision?

My guess is not.

 

[43066]

Will the 810s be impacted by the discussions over the Avanti 805s and 807s and speed supervision?

My guess is not.

I don’t see why. They will just use line speed and HST differentials although, depending on electrification upgrade works, they may be limited to 100mph on AC south of Bedford initially.

Much less complex than the WCML.

 

[43074]

When the wires reach Leicester, I can envisage a re-cast of the EMR Connect timetable with one 360 going to Corby and one to Leicester each hour. Though that would need more EMU stock or much better availability than they're getting now.

Can't see that happening as the current timetable is designed around interchange between the Nottingham and Corby services at Kettering, there's no reason for that to change particularly as it works reasonably well.

There are so many constraints on the EMR Intercity timetable between XC, Thameslink, paths in and out of Leicester and Sheffield etc etc that even with the 810s I'd be surprised if they can shave more than a minute or two off the journey times to be honest.

 

[Cowley]

I think the 360 discussion has come up before and probably been answered now. Let’s try and get back onto discussing the 810s please.

Thanks

 

[NSEWonderer]

Have the 810s Done any actual movement powered by the Overheads yet?

 

[800001]

Have the 810s Done any actual movement powered by the Overheads yet?

Yes, I believe, between York and Darlington. Only authorised for testing on OHL on east coast mainline.
Diesel only on Midland Mainline.

 

[NSEWonderer]

Yes, I believe, between York and Darlington. Only authorised for testing on OHL on east coast mainline.
Diesel only on Midland Mainline.

Ah ok that is lovely. Just often seem to see them on Diesel so explains why. Thanks

 

[QSK19]

I found a picture online (the 8xx Facebook group, I believe - either that or X). The 810 is sat at a platform at Newark during the night and its pan is up.

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Yes, I believe, between York and Darlington. Only authorised for testing on OHL on east coast mainline.
Diesel only on Midland Mainline.

Any idea when pan up is going to be authorised on the MML?

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Pass through Loughborough literally 3 minutes ago. My photo.

Very nice indeed in the flesh!

 

[800001]

I found a picture online (the 8xx Facebook group, I believe - either that or X). The 810 is sat at a platform at Newark during the night and its pan is up.

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Any idea when pan up is going to be authorised on the MML?

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Pass through Loughborough literally 3 minutes ago. My photo.

Very nice indeed in the flesh!

Pan up on midland mainline will be done when all the testing is complete on east coast mainline and at old Dalby.

As these are different length units to all previous, all the pantograph testing has to be redone.

 

[Nym]

Any ideas who’s doing the pantograph testing on these units?

 

[NSEWonderer]

Video showing a Class 810, Pan up at York.

 

[QSK19]

Forgot to add to my earlier post that, when it passed under the bridge, there was a distinct sound of a wheel flat at the rear end…

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Nice to see - at least a video of it in electric mode!

 

[LTJ87]

EMR has released images of the interiors of the Aurora fleet:

First look inside EMR’s new Aurora Bi-mode fleet | East Midlands Railway News

EMR release new photos of their new Intercity fleet interior Hitachi built trains include brand new seat designs, air conditioning, WiFi, power sockets and passenger information screens

news.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk

The Hitachi built bi-mode trains will transform the experience of customers as they travel on the Midland Main Line when introduced during 2025 and throughout 2026.

Features of the new state of the art trains include more seats and luggage space than EMR’s existing Meridian fleet, modern interiors, air conditioning, free WiFi, power sockets and USB ports at each seat and live passenger information.

EMR sourced and adapted a brand-new seat design for the new trains. Working closely with Derby-based design firm DG DESIGN, it has taken the proven product of a FISA Lean seat and refined it to offer enhanced comfort and support.

The seat enhancements included increasing the size of cushions, headrests and armrests and making sure that high quality durable materials were used throughout, such as a wool-rich herringbone moquette and leather.

Really hope the WiFi is better than it currently is on the Meridians:

The new Aurora fleet will include a new class-leading Wi-Fi system that uses multiple sim cards to select the best possible signal for customers as they travel to and from the capital.

Customers who want to use their own mobile signal will also benefit from better connections as the trains will be fitted with bespoke glass windows designed to allow signals to pass through.

 

[InTheEastMids]

EMR has released images of the interiors of the Aurora fleet:

Quote from the media release in the post above:
"when introduced during 2025 and throughout 2026."

Whereas:

The new state of the art intercity trains will start operating in 2022

Abellio invests £400 million in new trains for East Midlands Railway | EMR

Abellio UK, recently awarded the new eight-year EMR franchise by the Department for Transport, has awarded a £400 million contract to Hitachi Rail to build a pioneering new fleet of intercity trains.

www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk

 

[Snow1964]

The new Aurora fleet will include a new class-leading Wi-Fi system that uses multiple sim cards to select the best possible signal for customers as they travel to and from the capital.

Customers who want to use their own mobile signal will also benefit from better connections as the trains will be fitted with bespoke glass windows designed to allow signals to pass through.

Appear to have 2 hooks for cycles to hang from

240823East Midland Railway 046 | East Midlands Railway News

News from East Midlands Railway

news.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk

First look inside EMR’s new Aurora Bi-mode fleet | East Midlands Railway News

EMR release new photos of their new Intercity fleet interior Hitachi built trains include brand new seat designs, air conditioning, WiFi, power sockets and passenger information screens

news.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk

 

[Meerkat]

EMR has released images of the interiors of the Aurora fleet:

Those First class seats look remarkably unluxurious.
does anyone ever use coat hooks - you can’t actually use them and sit in the seat underneath can you?

 

[800001]

Those First class seats look remarkably unluxurious.
does anyone ever use coat hooks - you can’t actually use them and sit in the seat underneath can you?

Plenty of people use the coat hooks on the 80X trains I’ve travelled on.

 

[Rob F]

Those First class seats look remarkably unluxurious.
does anyone ever use coat hooks - you can’t actually use them and sit in the seat underneath can you?

I think the first class seats should be a significantly different colour to the standard class ones, as it gives another visual cue that you are in the correct class of accommodation.

Like this perhaps :

 

[InTheEastMids]

I think the first class seats should be a significantly different colour to the standard class ones, as it gives another visual cue that you are in the correct class of accommodation.

I agree with this. EMR announcers do regularly use seat colours as a way to tell people whether they're in first or standard.
First class is blue, standard was brown... err... I mean red and is now grey.

 

[eastwestdivide]

Like this perhaps :

My eyes... the goggles do nothing!
Flashbacks to 1970s dralon sofas

 

[Sun Chariot]

Like this perhaps :

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Oh,  that takes me back! It really was an eyesore.
And I remember the orange flimsy curtains in Mk1 RB carriages too.

 

[YorksLad12]

I think the first class seats should be a significantly different colour to the standard class ones, as it gives another visual cue that you are in the correct class of accommodation.

Like this perhaps :

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If you haven't twigged from the missing seats, I don't think a different colour scheme will help...

"The ticket on my app is purple and so are the seats, so I thought these were the right ones!"

 

[Meerkat]

Plenty of people use the coat hooks on the 80X trains I’ve travelled on.

How? Doesn’t the jacket then drape across your shoulder/head?

 

[800001]

How? Doesn’t the jacket then drape across your shoulder/head?

No! Try it!

 

[Nottingham59]

Where are the power and USB sockets in third standard class?

 

[QSK19]

Quote from the media release in the post above:
"when introduced during 2025 and throughout 2026."

If I had placed a bet several years ago on my prediction of 2026, I think the bookies would be paying me early

 

[Meerkat]

No! Try it!

I have, and it did! Cant remember what class of train though. Where does the coat hang if not on your shoulder?

 

[Killingworth]

If I had placed a bet several years ago on my prediction of 2026, I think the bookies would be paying me early

On 29th January 2024 I predicted 2026, although I'd been suspecting that for some time.

 

[diffarc]

Not entirely convinced by the tray tables in standard. Will a laptop fit on those?

 

[CTS1990]

Not entirely convinced by the tray tables in standard. Will a laptop fit on those?

Laptops will probably be obsolete by the time this fleet is in service!