DJH1971
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Therefore, I take it all 777's are in the UK?
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Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates
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ExRes
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Yes, unless the Mayor breaks open his piggy bank for an add on order of course .....
DJH1971
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And I believe there was an option for further units
childwallblues
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Up to 60 units I believe.
chiltern trev
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When does the option expire?
ExRes
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nigelsporne
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There obviously was only a minor problem with 140 as it spent the rest of the week on its diagram.
33 and 47 moved on the 22nd with 33 going up to Southport from where it commuted to Kirkdale and back on a regular basis for the rest of the week. 47 then moved into the shed at Kirkdale, being visible from the end of the platform.
10 and 26 were welded together for the week.
16 seemed to be the standby at Hooton.
29 was in the sidings at Southport.
Liverpool 507
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777043 first day in revenue earning service. Started at Southport working 2U05 0642 Southport - Hunts Cross to begin with.
darylyates17
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Other than the final few yet to be delivered how many of the 777s are yet to enter service?
Liverpool 507
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777029 which has completed a lot of mileage accumulation and multiple working, but has been heavily tagged at Southport.
777033 and 777047 are the other two here that are undergoing mileage accumulation.
MR-507508
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8 cars commencing on the Southport to Liverpool Central route soon.
Ormskirk services will be running to Hunts Cross. I believe with some 507s to help strengthen services during the peak.
www.merseyrail.org
Ormskirk services will be running to Hunts Cross. I believe with some 507s to help strengthen services during the peak.
Northern Line Route & Timetable Changes
As the roll out of the new fleet enters its final phase, customers will begin to see eight-car services on the Southport line. This means, from Sunday 25 August, there will be some temporary changes to Northern line routes with train times slightly amended.
www.merseyrail.org
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pokemonsuper9
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That link is broken now, looks like they've taken it down8 cars commencing on the Southport to Liverpool Central route.
Ormskirk services running to Hunts Cross. I believe with some 507s to help strengthen services during the peak.
Changes take place from Sunday 25th August.
Northern Line Route & Timetable Changes
As the roll out of the new fleet enters its final phase, customers will begin to see eight-car services on the Southport line. This means, from Sunday 25 August, there will be some temporary changes to Northern line routes with train times slightly amended.
Northerngirl
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I've been suggested Ormskirk - hunts Cross for a while, glad someone at the events might have listening8 cars commencing on the Southport to Liverpool Central route soon.
Ormskirk services will be running to Hunts Cross. I believe with some 507s to help strengthen services during the peak.
Northern Line Route & Timetable Changes
As the roll out of the new fleet enters its final phase, customers will begin to see eight-car services on the Southport line. This means, from Sunday 25 August, there will be some temporary changes to Northern line routes with train times slightly amended.
childwallblues
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Why the change, People from stations on the Hunts Cross line I am sure would prefer Southport as opposed to Ormskirk.
Sam 76
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Fairly sure it’s going to be temporary. The Hunts Cross section is not ready for 8 car working. So I imagine the Ormskirk will get 6 cars at the peaks and Southport 8 cars. Allows some of the overcrowding to ease.
As soon as this period of over and that section is ready for 8 car working it will return to how it is
Is there much work required for the Hunts Cross section, do you know? I mistakenly believed all of the Northern line was now ready for 8-car but it seems not!
jamesst
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Cressington needs selective door opening for 8 cars, the equipment isn't yet in place.
Northerngirl
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I think it should be both routes which surly is what they will do once its ready for 8 cars
Bletchleyite
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The majority destination is Liverpool city centre, the through working is just for operational flexibility. It barely matters which it is - in the past it was Kirkby which is hardly a bucket and spade destination! If you stand at Central you'll see almost complete passenger turnover there most of the time.
Presumably it's just because running single 4s to Southport in August is not a way to make yourself popular (and working 507s must be diminishing in number).
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There is nowhere near the demand required for 8tph to Hunts Cross, and doing half and half is just complicating things. Keep Merseyrail simple and let's not turn it into Castlefield. A same-platform change at any of three different stations (as you prefer) is hardly difficult.
peter.owen
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The page about the timetables from 25 August has been reinstated.
Northern Line Route & Timetable Changes
Northern Line Route & Timetable Changes
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Northerngirl
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Given how horrible overcrowded Central is, and that the line serves the airport & soon Baltic, I'd say it is very much needed, but I guess I know nothing
Just to react to this, I'm think you and @Bletchleyite were are a cross-purpose here. I think you meant both the Ormskirk and Southport lines should have 8-car service, but @Bletchleyite thought you meant sending both lines all the way through to Hunts Cross permanently, creating an 8 trains-per-hour service, not 8-car.
My hope is to also see 8-car on Ormskirk peaks as 4-car is pretty cosy and we used to enjoy 6-car for 4 evening services, so seeing this replaced I feel is a reasonable expectation.
ndjefc82
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Aigburth and St.Michaels too
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Expect 2x6 cars on the busiest trains
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No physical work, just ASDO on the units themselves
Grumpy Git
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Is it just the rear most door that's off the platform?
jamesst
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At Cressington only half of the platform is full sized, half is very narrow and pinned in with no room to expand.
Basically with 'grandfather rights' a 50x can stop with all doors released, even on the narrow section.
A 777 has no such rights so an 8 car will need selective door opening pretty much for half the platform.
MR-507508
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Anyone know what the issue with 777004 and 777144 is, they never seem to be out lately?
I know 144 has only ventured out in passenger service a few months back, 004 is noticeable when passing Kirkdale depot.
I know 144 has only ventured out in passenger service a few months back, 004 is noticeable when passing Kirkdale depot.
Is that the only reason preventing them running to Hunts Cross? I can only assume that the reasons for not raising the whole length of the platforms there to full height were (a) cost and/or (b) the narrowness of the extension making it impossible for wheelchairs. Which can't use Cressington anyway because of the lack of lifts. And since a four-car set fits the main section of the platform, it would presumably be the whole of the other four cars that would be selectively door-closed, and without passenger access between the two units people would have to be warned not to board, at every station en route. So we are stuck with lumbering noisy 507s for the foreseeable future?
jamesst
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Pretty much, Cressington is the main sticking point.
It won't be for long and when sorted as you say on an 8 car, selective door opening will mean the doors will only open on one of the units.
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