TfW withdrawals (Now just 150/158s to go)

[BillStampy]

I would assume 236 has had the same treatment?

No reports of any changes to it yet, but I'm going to assume so.

 

[JakeMurphy]

No reports of any changes to it yet, but I'm going to assume so.

No worries thank you, do you think it’ll go to Newport Docks for scrap?

 

[BillStampy]

No worries thank you, do you think it’ll go to Newport Docks for scrap?

Assuming so, since it's being taken apart it'll probably be dragged by a locomotive instead of going alone. It'll probably continue being taken apart for now though, then the rest will go to Docks.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

No reports of any changes to it yet, but I'm going to assume so.

A friend passed Landore and said it had had the lights stripped as well.

Assuming so, since it's being taken apart it'll probably be dragged by a locomotive instead of going alone. It'll probably continue being taken apart for now though, then the rest will go to Docks.

Probably by road as they are heavily stripping it, may not be fit to travel by rail.

 

[Scottish-Exile]

Apparent reports of 150281's lights being ripped out at Landore, meaning that it's now being taken for parts and is soon to head for scrap, that's for sure.
Haven't got any photo evidence but I wouldn't be surprised by this news.

Headlights?. 281 is still intact. The lights from 236 have been removed from the 57 car, but remain on the 52 car. Pics hot of the press!.

 

[BillStampy]

Headlights?. 281 is still intact. The lights from 236 have been removed from the 57 car, but remain on the 52 car. Pics hot of the press!.

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Ah so it was 236, my mistake! Brilliant photos though

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Probably by road as they are heavily stripping it, may not be fit to travel by rail.

Fair enough, if it is really heavily stripped then most likely option.

 

[Bikeman78]

Apparent reports of 150281's lights being ripped out at Landore, meaning that it's now being taken for parts and is soon to head for scrap, that's for sure.
Haven't got any photo evidence but I wouldn't be surprised by this news.

The two 150s are quite close to the running lines but obscured by buddleia. The unit closest to Cardiff has had the headlights taken out.

 

[BillStampy]

150227 seems to have had it's TfW branding covered up at Canton, presumably it's next to head off to Landore or wherever.

 

[Prestige15]

TFWs 158s will likely be leaving before the 150s

Its most likely the 158 will be the last to depart from tfw as we've been told the class 197 with ETCS are the last of the batch to enter service so the 158 will remain until then for the Cambrain line

 

[Lurcheroo]

Its most likely the 158 will be the last to depart from tfw as we've been told the class 197 with ETCS are the last of the batch to enter service so the 158 will remain until then for the Cambrain line

I’m told, that the 158’s have to be gone by December 2025. Testing runs and 197 training looks set to begin September 2024 so should be all ok.
I would think most of the 150’s if not all will be gone before the 158’s.

 

[Western 52]

150227 visible at Canton today with branding removed. 282 is next to it, but retains branding.

 

[BillStampy]

150227 visible at Canton today with branding removed. 282 is next to it, but retains branding.

Already mentioned in post 878, 227 hasn't been in service since if I'm not mistaken.
I had a chat to some people a month ago saying that 227 was predicted to be next to go, I think it'll head off to Landore this week, just my guess!

 

[170UTD]

Already mentioned in post 878, 227 hasn't been in service since if I'm not mistaken.
I had a chat to some people a month ago saying that 227 was predicted to be next to go, I think it'll head off to Landore this week, just my guess!

Now many are left now that some have done off lease?

 

[BillStampy]

Now many are left now that some have done off lease?

4 out of service, 2 Craven Arms and 2 withdrawn (281, 236)
36 originally so should be 32 left in service unless I've missed out on some.

 

[Bikeman78]

4 out of service, 2 Craven Arms and 2 withdrawn (281, 236)
36 originally so should be 32 left in service unless I've missed out on some.

227 is dead too. So 31 left. 237 next to go in a few weeks.

 

[JakeMurphy]

227 is dead too. So 31 left. 237 next to go in a few weeks.

Sad times.

 

[BillStampy]

227 is dead too. So 31 left. 237 next to go in a few weeks.

Oops! How did I forget 227 when it has been discussed here so much recently! So that makes it 31 left, 30 soon.

 

[Wyrleybart]

Sad times.

I think it is a matter of opinion. Whilst they could still have life ahead if you spent a lot of cash on them, the TfW 150 fleet was always going to be toast whe nthew 197s were ordered.

40 years is old enough in my view.

 

[Rhydgaled]

the TfW 150 fleet was always going to be toast whe nthew 197s were ordered.

I think it was more ValleyLines electrification that signalled the end for the ATW/TfW 150s. Without electrification and with the Pacers gone, I expect the Valleys network (including Vale Of Glamorgan) plus Ebbw Vale, Maesteg, Swanline and Cardiff-Cheltenham could have accounted for all of the Welsh 150 fleet, and the 197s (when ordered) weren't planned to cover many of those services.

 

[Foggycorner]

they should send them to Northern to make into 3 car sets instead of scrap at newport

 

[skyhigh]

they should send them to Northern to make into 3 car sets instead of scrap at newport

Who is 'they'?

And would Northern want a load of rusty old heaps that each require 12 months out of service for major structural repairs to remove the rotten metal before they can be used again?

 

[BillStampy]

they should send them to Northern to make into 3 car sets instead of scrap at newport

The trains are in awful condition and have already been deemed as not up for sale by Porterbrook and are headed straight to the scrap yard following their pulling from service

150236 and 281 are already being stripped for parts at Landore.

 

[Foggycorner]

Thanks for the info its always good to get local on site expert knowlage that is not available to those of us from far away
and by they I ment the senders to the scrap yard

 

[150249]

TfW sprinters are in a much worse condition overall that GWR sprinters. Not sure how they compare to Northern examples. I'd imagine it's quite similar. GWR probably don't want them

 

[Ribbleman]

TfW sprinters are in a much worse condition overall that GWR sprinters. Not sure how they compare to Northern examples. I'd imagine it's quite similar. GWR probably don't want them

I would have thought that Northern would be more interested in some of TfW’s 158s when available than some very rusty 150s.

 

[BillStampy]

I would have thought that Northern would be more interested in some of TfW’s 158s when available than some very rusty 150s.

Potentially but the TfW 158s aren't going to be available anytime soon as 197 Cambrian introduction is constantly being delayed

 

[150249]

Potentially but the TfW 158s aren't going to be available anytime soon as 197 Cambrian introduction is constantly being delayed

My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't think they'd go straight for scrap

 

[Lurcheroo]

Potentially but the TfW 158s aren't going to be available anytime soon as 197 Cambrian introduction is constantly being delayed

Have heard from someone that’s been involved in the 197 project and it’s been said the 158’s have to go by December 2025.

I also heard from someone senior at TFW that best guess is September 2025 for the 197’s on the Cambrian but could be earlier if CAF can deliver the units sooner.

 

[danielnez1]

Correct me if I am wrong, but Northern's 150 fleet received corrosion repairs some years ago, but the TfW 150 fleet has not, which would be another reason for them to go for scrap now.

 

[adc82140]

And if there's any truth in the 175s to GWR rumour, then GWR won't be interested in the 150s either.