It's the lowest Tory seat total in their history as a party dating back to 1834, its the sixth largest majority in history just behind 1997 and just in front of 2001 and really it's fifth seeing as the highest majority ever was the 1931 National Government which was quite an odd ball really, and they've turned around their own worst performance since the 1930s in a single electoral cycle. It's pretty damn extraordinary even if it doesn't live up to some of the more extreme pre-election polls.They aren't really. The number of labour seats is less than 1997 and there seems no prospect of the Conservatives moving into third place, which would actually have been incredible. This is 'below par' for me given what polls were indicating.
According to https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic-research/firth/exit-poll-explainer/ the exit poll is effectively a second ballot, precisely to avoid bias from talking to a pollster.yup its really wrong no way Reform have 13 or SNP down to 10 - people on exit polls will mislead the questioner
I thought it would be the opposite, conspiracy minded people aren't going to be telling the tellers who they voted for.I'd be very cautious about Reform's exit numbers. I would suspect that their voters would be far more likely to announce their voting preference to exit pollsters than swing voters going to Labour. I expect their numbers to be far less than forecast.
According to https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/statistics/staff/academic-research/firth/exit-poll-explainer/ the exit poll is effectively a second ballot, precisely to avoid bias from talking to a pollster.
Honestly I disagree, I'd say they are the people most likely to announce their voting preference. And social media plus earlier polls potentially demonstrates exactly this.I thought it would be the opposite, conspiracy minded people aren't going to be telling the tellers who they voted for.
I think theirs a bit of wishful thinking in this thread
Which way has this been historically biased?exit poll can't cover people who vote by post.
Text version sorted by party and counted (written rapidly by hand, sorry any errors, there's probably at least a few)
Labour said:31 seats - Airdrie, Ayr, Ayrshire C, Ayrshire N, Bathgate, Coatbridge, Cowdenbeath, Cumbernauld, Dunb'shire W, Dunfermline, East Kilbridge, Edinburgh (East, North, South and South West), Glasgow (East, North, North East, South, South West and West), Hamilton, Inverclyde, Livingston, Lothian East, Midlothian, Motherwelll, Na h-Eileanan, Paisley Ren N, Paisley Ren S, Renf'shire E, Rutherglen
Conservative said:12 seats - Aberdeen S, Aberdeenshire North, Aberdeenshire West, Angus, Argyll, Berwickshire, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire, Gordon, Moray W, Perth, Stirling
Lib Dem said:5 seats, Caithness, Dunb'shire M, Edinburgh West, Fife NE, Orkney & Shetlands
SNP said:7 seats - Aberdeen N, Alloa & Gm'th, Arbroath, Dundee C, Falkirk, Inverness, Kilmarnock
Suspect it's the other in the BBC poll for when you subtract the Northern Ireland seats. The alternative would be Galloway which would be less likelyThe exit poll for Islington North is too close to call, I think it'll either be a small win for Corbyn or a small win for Labour.
He was there because he had an agenda to get across. Seems like he would have been happy to be there knowing that he had little chance of retaining his seat.Steve Baker is probably regretting saying 'sure I'll be on your BBC panel!'
The article I linked to in #33 suggests postal voting doesn't affect the accuracy of the exit polls massively. The exit polls are looking at the change in votes compared to last time. As long as postal voters change in a similar manner to in-person voters then it's still a valid sample to extrapolate from.Which way has this been historically biased?
Doesn't the main exit poll say 10 for the SNP?Text version sorted by party and counted (written rapidly by hand, sorry any errors, there's probably at least a few)
Rather than the loudest, the issue with an exit poll would be if a particular type of voter was more likely to refuse to take part in the exit poll than average.Honestly I disagree, I'd say they are the people most likely to announce their voting preference. And social media plus earlier polls potentially demonstrates exactly this.
Indeed it does, but that picture only has 7 yellow boxesDoesn't the main exit poll say 10 for the SNP?
The BBC one yes, Sky has them on 7.Doesn't the main exit poll say 10 for the SNP?
That's the Sky exit poll.Indeed it does, but that picture only has 7 yellow boxes
Ahh fair enough. Sky has shared the last few exit polls. Didn't know they'd gone their own way this timeThe BBC one yes, Sky has them on 7.
The BBC has the Conservatives on 11 in Scotland, Sky has them on 12.
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That's the Sky exit poll.
I believe the three companies commission the exit poll jointly. But a BBC article on exit polling mentions 'BBC analysts', so perhaps they do different things with the raw numbers?Ahh fair enough. Sky has shared the last few exit polls. Didn't know they'd gone their own way this time
From what I can see on Sky's website, they're echoing the BBC, not sure where the Scottish Constituencies came fromAhh fair enough. Sky has shared the last few exit polls. Didn't know they'd gone their own way this time
Sir John Curtice has backed this up somewhat by saying the SNP and Reform numbers should be cautioned due to less data on these.I'd be very cautious about Reform's exit numbers. I would suspect that their voters would be far more likely to announce their voting preference to exit pollsters than swing voters going to Labour. I expect their numbers to be far less than forecast.
Almost certainly. The other (five) contenders in this constituency were 100-1 outsiders (if not higher odds).The exit poll for Islington North is too close to call, I think it'll either be a small win for Corbyn or a small win for Labour.
At least hes only be talked to C4 have sold out with Nadine Dories, Kwasi Kwarteng, Anne Widdicombe and Nadhim Zahawi all in the studioJust as I was thinking what an excellent job the BBC were doing with their coverage...
"We can now cross to JRM!"