Yes the southern ends of both routes should be fine every 30 minutes, the northern section of the 8 would benefit from returning to every 15 minutes so all in all this apparent plan looks to work rather well if you ask me.
Eastern Scottish ran frequent services into Edinburgh via both Gilmerton and Cameron Toll. When LRT first started running to Dalkeith at deregulation, the Gilmerton route had the more frequent service.
With the 33/48 there was no direct links to the city centre lost as everything was covered by the 3, 29 and 49 whereas here Roswell has completely lost out
My worry is how much pressure this will put on the already busy 3 & 29 along Gilmerton Road, i can see myself using the both of those more as the 8 at half hourly will be to tight to use in some cases
I reckon it should be fine, it's only taking off one (relatively empty) bus so shouldn't add too much pressure. Agreed with how busy the 3 is on this section though: shame there aren't enough tri-axles to run on it alongside the other services which seem to need them!
With the 49 withdrawn from Dalkeith its the only bus from Mayfield and Dalkeith to the City. It already needed a 10 minute frequency back but it needs it more than ever now with these changes, most will be full by the time they even get beyond the by-pass
Does this mean the 30 won't be going through Newcraighall and Musselburgh, but onto the new slip road off the A1. This would allow deckers to be used.
Absolutely. Minor route changes such as a new loop or a change in the middle of the route are very hard (if not impossible) to spot within the VOSA registration.
I'm so curious about how the 22 is going to Granton from the city centre. If it means following the current 47 route from Lothian Road, then it wouldn't even stop on Princes Street at all. I'm living along the 22 route and not close to the tram stop, which would mean I'll lose the bus to the east side of the city centre. It might be better if it goes through Leith Walk again but that would be a long route to Granton and we already have the 14 going that way...
Certainly the biggest network revision since the the one in March 2000.
Best guess here would be from Lothian Road taking the 47 route as you say, as this would cover the filling up at Queensferry Street as eh1 says.
I'd definitely bet that the 30 would go to doubles, as I can see this being the reason for the likely routing down the A1.
I think it simply bolts on to the current 47 route from Lothian Road. Via Stockbridge I think relies on too much losses from the 24, but it could happen. Either way it kills this dogleg that the 22 has had for a while now.
I have to agree, but it then makes it difficult to use up all of the singles. Unless the plan is still for some to be left for 20/63 - or some are departing. Whatever happens I do think 1-10 could be doomed.
They’re not. That’s for the rugby, and some drivers are continuing to use them.
I agree that intermediate points being displayed on LED destination screens would be nice. One argument Lothian could make against them, is that it could mean reducing the text size of the destination, potentially making it harder to identify from a distance as well as making the destination screen more cluttered. I could imagine them using the 3 intermediate points that used to be shown on roller blinds for city routes, and either have them stationary or scrolling, but in the case of LEDs hopefully they'd be able to implement them in a way that they are displayed in the correct direction (unlike on roller blinds) and each intermediate point is deleted once it has been served.
The old dual screens worked really well in my opinion - they ensured the destination was in a large legible font while still showing via points underneath. It would definitely be useful for services such as the 34/35 or the 48/49 which run similar routes but via different intermediate points.
Strongly agreed, they were my favourite type of LED destination screen, espescially useful for people who are unfamiliar with where which routes go. The 34/35 and 48/49 are good examples, with showing the same destination and serving many on the same places, but going different routes in many places. For service 34 it could show Longstone, Princes Street, Lochend while the 35 could show Chesser, High Street, Easter Road to show where they differ. As for the 48/49, the 48 could show Newtongrange, Mayfield, Greendykes while the (current) 49 could show Royal Infirmary, Bridges, Leith Walk as it used to on roller blinds.
Ah right, fair enough.
I would disagree with all but the last quote, I think if intermediates are to be displayed then they should be on a screen of their own to avoid having non-essential info on the main screen, and the text displayed should be kept to a minimum, e.g. "
I think that single deckers have the same size of destination screen even though it looks smaller.
I agree about the Edinburgh destination. It should say Waterloo Place on the 43 and the 15 as it comes from Midlothian should really say Edinburgh Waterloo Place same as the X18, X27 & X28 as they come from West Lothian.
I’m actually surprised that they haven’t opted to renumber the 48 as 148 and the new 46 a 146 and have them run as ECB as they barely go to Edinburgh.
Only the 7900s have smaller screens.
I doubt there are enough resources nor space at Musselburgh for that.
Wow that’s surprised me, thanks for noticing that. I should clarify that was a random suggestion related to the subject and I know absolutely nothing with what Lothian actually do. Still, at least one of my ideas has turned into a real route so it must work!
Curtailing to Hermiston Gait could save a bus but it would make turnaround times very tight (3-4mins at each end). Perhaps usage is low between Hermiston and the Gyle.