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Trainee Train Drivers (Talent Bank) - Avanti - Multiple Locations (02/10/22)

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Quite surprised to see people getting their emails back so soon. My tests haven't even reached their deadline yet (midday on the 26th). I expect at this rate I will hear back from them soon after that though. At least this time I know it's a matter of being told I've either passed or failed.
 

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Quite surprised to see people getting their emails back so soon. My tests haven't even reached their deadline yet (midday on the 26th). I expect at this rate I will hear back from them soon after that though. At least this time I know it's a matter of being told I've either passed or failed.
My deadline was yesterday. Completed them on 20th though.
 

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My deadline was midnight (12am Tuesday) and I got the email today.

I’m a little surprised though (although I probably just misunderstood). I thought the next stage after the first 5 assessments online, would be at the centre. I didn’t know we would be doing these 2 at home. So if successful at this stage, will it still be 2 days of assessments at the centre? And what will those consist of?

Also, am I right in thinking that if someone makes it through successfully to the end, they are placed in the talent pool and await a training program start date or they go into training quite soon and then await a start date post training?
 

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Why for Avanti do these form part of your 2 attempts but when I did the same tests in February this year this was this never mentioned but now it is
 

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I'm not sure who else uses VSE and M7 other than ARL. So the 5 tests you have already done have no life implications, though if you pass you will be invited to do the VSE and M7 which for the few TOCs that use it, does have life counts on it, so, if you have already done them with other TOC and you decide to continue with Avanti you'll have to do them again, if you fail them, you have 1 life remaining but note that the company you applied for originally will now make you redo it (because its been updated and is now a 'fail') with the single life you have left. Very big risk.

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Just received an email saying i was successful and to take the next online tests. VSE and M7 tests.

If I was successful and got through and was offered a place, this would be a complete change of career. What would the effect of Avanti losing their franchise be? All very new to this, as this is my 1st time applying for a driver role. Thanks
same thing when SouthEastern lost their franchise, not a lot
 

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So what are these tests then? They sound a bit different from what I did.

When I think of visual search I think of either the telephone book test or the picture that flashes up, but if it is those you could easily cheat at home.

Just have some mates with you and screenshot the pic or help search the phone book.

And the M7 which sounds like a cowboy movie, is that the one where they ask a question and you have to say what you would most likely do and not do?
 

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I'm not sure who else uses VSE and M7 other than ARL. So the 5 tests you have already done have no life implications, though if you pass you will be invited to do the VSE and M7 which for the few TOCs that use it, does have life counts on it, so, if you have already done them with other TOC and you decide to continue with Avanti you'll have to do them again, if you fail them, you have 1 life remaining but note that the company you applied for originally will now make you redo it (because its been updated and is now a 'fail') with the single life you have left. Very big risk.

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same thing when SouthEastern lost their franchise, not a lot
What I'm trying to ask, unsuccessfully, what's the chance of getting a job, they lose the franchise, then you're made redundant?
 

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What I'm trying to ask, unsuccessfully, what's the chance of getting a job, they lose the franchise, then you're made redundant?
no because TOCs unlike FOCs are government protected, very unlikely to be made redundant

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So what are these tests then? They sound a bit different from what I did.

When I think of visual search I think of either the telephone book test or the picture that flashes up, but if it is those you could easily cheat at home.

Just have some mates with you and screenshot the pic or help search the phone book.

And the M7 which sounds like a cowboy movie, is that the one where they ask a question and you have to say what you would most likely do and not do?
its not that, its a multitasking exercise which judges accuracy and speed and is used to sift further. M7 iirc is questionnaire
 

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no because TOCs unlike FOCs are government protected, very unlikely to be made redundant

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its not that, its a multitasking exercise which judges accuracy and speed and is used to sift further. M7 iirc is questionnaire
The multi tasking is the phone book and beep test tho isn’t it as I described? either way could be cheated, you don’t have to multi task if there is multi people available
 

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The multi tasking is the phone book and beep test tho isn’t it as I described? either way could be cheated, you don’t have to multi task if there is multi people available
if you say so, though someone posted a link above on what the VSE is. if you pass the VSE you will most likely be asked to do it again in house so if you think you can cheat your way through well....
 

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if you say so, though someone posted a link above on what the VSE is. if you pass the VSE you will most likely be asked to do it again in house so if you think you can cheat your way through well....
I don’t need to cheat I’m in the Job. From what you said it sounded like the phone book and beep test.

Just a bit unusual that they are doing this online as I had to sit it in test conditions under supervision.
 

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The multi tasking is the phone book and beep test tho isn’t it as I described? either way could be cheated, you don’t have to multi task if there is multi people available
Wasn't for online test I did in February. It was train circuit and a blue dot went round. Every time it changed the sequence to had to press a button. Then there was shapes and you had to decide if both sides were the same or not. Then both formentioned together.
Phone book and beeps is part of the paper tests on the assessment day.
 

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I don’t need to cheat I’m in the Job. From what you said it sounded like the phone book and beep test.

Just a bit unusual that they are doing this online as I had to sit it in test conditions under supervision.
yes with other tocs who use it they make you do it again under test conditions/supervision im sure Avanti will too
 

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Wasn't for online test I did in February. It was train circuit and a blue dot went round. Every time it changed the sequence to had to press a button. Then there was shapes and you had to decide if both sides were the same or not. Then both formentioned together.
Phone book and beeps is part of the paper tests on the assessment day.
That’s interesting.

Well I hope it works out well for everyone through to this stage.

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yes with other tocs who use it they make you do it again under test conditions/supervision im sure Avanti will too
That’s probably harder then really more tests to pass
 

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I hope I'm allowed to ask this here, but something I'm not quite understanding about the second Visual Search Exercise is how it would work. Will it all be explained in the email or test instructions? I understand the principle of the first test which is simply to click when there is a fault such as a skip on the circuit, but the panel test I'm not so sure about. I hope my words make sense too, but do forgive me if my writing is somewhat confusing. I found this image of the panel on this website here but I'm not so sure as to how helpful it might actually be for the real thing. (The site is called traineetraindriverinfo.com and usually appears as the first result of a Google search for "train driver visual search exercise").
 

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My deadline was midnight (12am Tuesday) and I got the email today.

I’m a little surprised though (although I probably just misunderstood). I thought the next stage after the first 5 assessments online, would be at the centre. I didn’t know we would be doing these 2 at home. So if successful at this stage, will it still be 2 days of assessments at the centre? And what will those consist of?

Also, am I right in thinking that if someone makes it through successfully to the end, they are placed in the talent pool and await a training program start date or they go into training quite soon and then await a start date post training?
If you look on the Avanti careers page it does mention the application process in a drop down menu. Looks like there will be stage 1 and 2 psychometrics after
 

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I hope I'm allowed to ask this here, but something I'm not quite understanding about the second Visual Search Exercise is how it would work. Will it all be explained in the email or test instructions? I understand the principle of the first test which is simply to click when there is a fault such as a skip on the circuit, but the panel test I'm not so sure about. I hope my words make sense too, but do forgive me if my writing is somewhat confusing. I found this image of the panel on this website here but I'm not so sure as to how helpful it might actually be for the real thing. (The site is called traineetraindriverinfo.com and usually appears as the first result of a Google search for "train driver visual search exercise").
it is not like what you have posted. You will be given a practice run and it will all be explained.
 

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it is not like what you have posted. You will be given a practice run and it will all be explained.
Thanks so much! Knowing I'll be given a practice run will probably help a lot, and hopefully I'll have a bit of time to get the hang of it. The last thing I want is to fail because I didn't understand.
 

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Did you get your email sorcerer?
Nothing yet, but I don't want to be caught off guard and feel I should at least mentally prepare myself in case I've passed the OPC questionnaire. The deadline for mine isn't until tomorrow at noon so I'm not expecting anything until after then anyway.
 

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Nothing yet, but I don't want to be caught off guard and feel I should at least mentally prepare myself in case I've passed the OPC questionnaire. The deadline for mine isn't until tomorrow at noon so I'm not expecting anything until after then anyway.
Ah ok hopefully you get it tomorrow or day after. I can tell you're passionate about this role.
My deadline was midnight today, but I got my email 5pm today like some of the other people mentioned earlier so I'm not sure how that works out/was decided...
 

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Ah ok hopefully you get it tomorrow or day after. I can tell you're passionate about this role.
My deadline was midnight today, but I got my email 5pm today like some of the other people mentioned earlier so I'm not sure how that works out/was decided...
Best of luck to you on getting the best results!
 

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I hope I'm allowed to ask this here, but something I'm not quite understanding about the second Visual Search Exercise is how it would work. Will it all be explained in the email or test instructions? I understand the principle of the first test which is simply to click when there is a fault such as a skip on the circuit, but the panel test I'm not so sure about. I hope my words make sense too, but do forgive me if my writing is somewhat confusing. I found this image of the panel on this website here but I'm not so sure as to how helpful it might actually be for the real thing. (The site is called traineetraindriverinfo.com and usually appears as the first result of a Google search for "train driver visual search exercise").
Below is practice on email but my memory or actual one was shapes not signs
 

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Below is practice on email but my memory or actual one was shapes not signs
This might not be as hard as I first thought then. Could still be a change but with enough practice I might be able to pull through. I'll just have to give it my best shot if I've passed the previous assessment.
 
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Done the tests - made a couple of errors as I had my finger too close to the mouse button and clicked inadvertently and once went in my head "yes they're the same" and clicked yes. Hopefully 100% isn't required
 
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