Avanti West Coast Rolling Stock Updates

[Skie]

... because that would still cost more than doing nothing?

Which is First through and through. Doing nothing.

 

[317 forever]

A bit of a shame, seeing that some luggage racks have a window to look out of, when neighbouring seats have a blank wall...

The way round this is for a passenger to sit on top of his luggage

 

[Liam L]

Hello - I know that 221142 / 143 have been returned to the leasing company recently?

Any ideas if they moved or they are still at central rivers? Thanks

 

[DannyMich2018]

Hello - I know that 221142 / 143 have been returned to the leasing company recently?

Any ideas if they moved or they are still at central rivers? Thanks

I wonder if XC's 221136 can have its 5 coach back now from 221142?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I wonder if XC's 221136 can have its 5 coach back now from 221142?

and 144 could have 143s.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Which is First through and through. Doing nothing.

It is pretty much inconceivable that any rejig of the layout wouldn't have meant cramming another row in, so count your blessings and all that

 

[Trackman]

It is pretty much inconceivable that any rejig of the layout wouldn't have meant cramming another row in, so count your blessings and all that

Indeed.

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Someone mentioned up thread about a sticky for the 390 refurbs updates - is there anyone who would take up he mantle from the previous sticky to update?

 

[800001]

805001 had broken cover at Hitachi Merchant Park tonight

 

[RealTrains07]

805001 had broken cover at Hitachi Merchant Park tonight

Surprised the kitchen area is small considering the kind of service avanti does in first class

 

[Bletchleyite]

Surprised the kitchen area is small considering the kind of service avanti does in first class

They're replacing Voyagers which have a reduced First Class offering.

 

[800001]

Surprised the kitchen area is small considering the kind of service avanti does in first class

Remember the 5 car fleet replace the Voyagers on Holyhead/Chester route where they offer a reduced 1st class offer.

The 7 car class 807, will presumably have the standard size kitchen same as LNER.

 

[Huntergreed]

Remember the 5 car fleet replace the Voyagers on Holyhead/Chester route where they offer a reduced 1st class offer.

The 7 car class 807, will presumably have the standard size kitchen same as LNER.

I highly doubt it, I would imagine it'll be mostly the same, with 2 more coaches of seats stuffed in the middle.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Will these have buffet counters or is it just at-seat?

 

[800001]

Will these have buffet counters or is it just at-seat?

There is a small shop, similar size to LNER, (that’s purely based of my observation tonight of the blanked out window on car 2).

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I highly doubt it, I would imagine it'll be mostly the same, with 2 more coaches of seats stuffed in the middle.

So you don’t know?
Let’s just wait and see.

 

[43102EMR]

Remember the 5 car fleet replace the Voyagers on Holyhead/Chester route where they offer a reduced 1st class offer.

The 7 car class 807, will presumably have the standard size kitchen same as LNER.

I wouldn’t say that - if the Avanti Pendolino interior is anything to go by, I’d say the interiors will be more or less the same (albeit modified slightly depending on whether it’s an 805 or 807).

 

[The_Train]

I believe 390131 was the last out of Widnes - did it go straight to Edge Hill for the work they are conducting there or back into service?

 

[mangyiscute]

Hi, does anyone know if 390122 and/or 390126 have been refurbished?

 

[Huntergreed]

Hi, does anyone know if 390122 and/or 390126 have been refurbished?

Neither as of yet:

390123
390124
390125
390131
390148
390154
390155
390156
390157

Currently in: 390104

Are the only ones done so far I believe.

Is the plan to finish all the 11-cars before starting the /0’s?

 

[gka472l]

Hi, does anyone know if 390122 and/or 390126 have been refurbished?

No, was on 390126 this morning, still in original condition.....have seen 390122 in service in the last day or so too

HTH

 

[mangyiscute]

Well another trip without getting one - was 10 seconds too late to get on 390157 sadly

 

[Trackman]

Well another trip without getting one - was 10 seconds too late to get on 390157 sadly

I've still drawn a blank too.. not bothered looking at RTT - if I fall on one, well great.

 

[Chiltern006]

i thought they had set diagrams due to crew issues, or has that been solved?

was on one on tuesday and was impressed, however it was a shame to see little things untouched such as the blinds could’ve done with a clean, or the vestibule having had nothing done except the change of safety posters, changing the colours of the toilet doors does feel like a missed opportunity. although only aesthetic things I feel that it would’ve fully completed it.

also coach G- surely they must’ve completely stripped that out and changed the reservation systems?

 

[SansHache]

I believe 390131 was the last out of Widnes - did it go straight to Edge Hill for the work they are conducting there or back into service?

390131 went direct to Edge Hill from Widnes and returned to service on 16th July. The additional work planned to be done at Edge Hill (vestibules and toilet doors) has not started yet. Customer acceptance and snagging is being done at Edge Hill to speed throughput at Widnes.

11-car trains are being updated first so it will be at least 12 months before the first 9-car train is due in for refurbishment.

 

[dereksingh291]

when will the pendolino refurbishment be completed by?

 

[Huntergreed]

when will the pendolino refurbishment be completed by?

Probably around spring/summer 2024 if current rates keep up (56 trains, 2 weeks a train)

 

[JakeMurphy]

Probably around spring/summer 2024 if current rates keep up (56 trains, 2 weeks a train)

Any ideas who’s gone in next

 

[voyagerdude220]

Sorry a little off topic, does anyone know why the 10:17 Preston to Birmingham/12:20 Birmingham to Edinburgh/16:51 Edinburgh to Birmingham are only booked for 1x221, not 2x221 like they used to be before the Summer timetable change?

I imagine Avanti have several 221s sat spare, particularly at Central Rivers. I know the set comes from Crewe in the morning but surely the diagram is busy enough to warrant 10 cars, particularly the bits to/from Edinburgh?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Sorry a little off topic, does anyone know why the 10:17 Preston to Birmingham/12:20 Birmingham to Edinburgh/16:51 Edinburgh to Birmingham are only booked for 1x221, not 2x221 like they used to be before the Summer timetable change?

I imagine Avanti have several 221s sat spare, particularly at Central Rivers. I know the set comes from Crewe in the morning but surely the diagram is busy enough to warrant 10 cars, particularly the bits to/from Edinburgh?

Perhaps preparation to send a few more off lease in the near future

 

[JakeMurphy]

Saw a 390 on Widnes today couldn’t see number

 

[Liam L]

Saw a 390 on Widnes today couldn’t see number

Unless it’s been swapped over - it should be 390124