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Half term is this week in the East Midlands and I think it is in the West Midlands as well.

It certainly is half term this week in the Potteries which just about seems to be classed as the West Midlands (albeit not in the PTE part).
 

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1V44 0611 Lds - Plymouth booked HST, Tuesday to Friday this coming week, presumably due to the racing at Cheltenham.
 

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1V44 0611 Lds - Plymouth booked HST, Tuesday to Friday this coming week, presumably due to the racing at Cheltenham.
Now that's odd - have CrossCountry suddenly got a driver or staff for an HST then??? My guess is not if it wasn't the races this week.
 

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Now that's odd - have CrossCountry suddenly got a driver or staff for an HST then??? My guess is not if it wasn't the races this week.
The Driver issue is a bit of a red herring, yes they're short of HST trained Drivers at Brum, but not elsewhere.
The main reason for not using them all week is cost saving, they are leased on a type of pay as you go arrangement.
 

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I can’t deny I haven’t kept up much lately but I note the use of the HSTs appears to be less and less as of late – virtually just on weekends if I’m not mistaken.

Are the current diagrams still planned to be HST operated going forward, i.e. the 1227/1527 off Plymouth and the 1535 from Bristol TM?

Many thanks in advance and apologies if I missed any posts when looking through.
 

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I can’t deny I haven’t kept up much lately but I note the use of the HSTs appears to be less and less as of late – virtually just on weekends if I’m not mistaken.

Are the current diagrams still planned to be HST operated going forward, i.e. the 1227/1527 off Plymouth and the 1535 from Bristol TM?

Many thanks in advance and apologies if I missed any posts when looking through.
The HST's are being used on Fridays and weekends only. Fridays its:
0611 Leeds to Plymouth
1227 Plymouth to Edinburgh
0606 Edinburgh to Plymouth
1527 Plymouth to Leeds
 

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The HST's are being used on Fridays and weekends only. Fridays its:
0611 Leeds to Plymouth
1227 Plymouth to Edinburgh
0606 Edinburgh to Plymouth
1527 Plymouth to Leeds

Very tempted by that 1227 to Edinburgh. Mind you....for not that much more you could have a day on the Midland Pullman. Fares are absolutely hideous....
 

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Sorry to jump in here. Looking at the service patterns. Fridays are still the most reliable day to see HSTs although it looks like there have been various Wednesdays and Thursday in the last few weeks where they’ve ran. 1M49, 1V50, 1E63 and 1S51 are the most consistent.
 

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Does anyone know what the scheduled HST diagrams are for the May 2022 timetable change?
Given that the timetable NE-SW route is almost the same probably this (and probably depends if Cross Country bother to use them as well):

Mon-Fri:
0611 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth
0806 Edinburgh - Plymouth?

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1327 Plymouth - Edinburgh?
1527 Plymouth - Leeds

Saturday:
0609 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth?
0658 Edinburgh - Plymouth

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1627 Plymouth - Leeds

Sunday:
0811 Leeds - Plymouth
0908 Edinburgh - Plymouth

1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh?
1427 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1827 Plymouth - Leeds


Am I correct in thinking the following will be HST's on Saturday with the diversions via Lichfield:
0611 Leeds - Plymouth
0606 Edinburgh - Plymouth
1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh
1627 Plymouth - Leeds
 

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Afternoon, is anyone able to tell me which power cars are likely to be working the following on Friday 6 May please? I assume it’s relatively easy to work out given current locations provided there’s no last minute challenges:

1V44 06.11 Leeds - Plymouth (a.11:48)
1V50 06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth (a.14:48)


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Also worth noting that there were FOUR sets out working today!!
 

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Afternoon, is anyone able to tell me which power cars are likely to be working the following on Friday 6 May please? I assume it’s relatively easy to work out given current locations provided there’s no last minute challenges:

1V44 06.11 Leeds - Plymouth (a.11:48)
1V50 06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth (a.14:48)


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Also worth noting that there were FOUR sets out working today!!
Likely to be XC03 - 43285+43357 on 1V44 and XC05 - 43239+43208 on 1V50, however, as even then things are subject to change and will not be allocated until the early hours on the day (such as a Voyager vice). Also the return workings can and do change on the regular with set swaps at Plymouth.
 

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Does anyone know if the use of HST's this week on other days (Mon and Tues so far) is a one off for this week or will continue in the future?
 

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Does anyone know if the use of HST's this week on other days (Mon and Tues so far) is a one off for this week or will continue in the future?

I believe its for at least this timetable change that the 06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth and 15:27 Plymouth - Leeds and 1V44 and 1S51 are booked an HST on weekdays.

I'd love to know why they're aren't 1 or 2 more HST's in use even though CrossCountry's just had a timetable change plus being able to increase capacity.
 

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I believe its for at least this timetable change that the 06:06 Edinburgh - Plymouth and 15:27 Plymouth - Leeds and 1V44 and 1S51 are booked an HST on weekdays.

I'd love to know why they're aren't 1 or 2 more HST's in use even though CrossCountry's just had a timetable change plus being able to increase capacity.
Travelled from Derby to Plymouth yesterday on the 10.31 departure from Derby (0606 ex Edinburgh). The capacity was certainly needed between Birmingham and Exeter as it was full with a few people standing. Overhead luggage racks were very full with cases too so it would have been very uncomfortable had a single Voyager turned up. If it’s like this on a Monday in mid May the HSTs will certainly be needed for capacity this summer. There were certainly 2 HSTs out yesterday as we passed the 1227 Plymouth - Edinburgh near Tiverton Parkway.
 

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According to Real Time Trains the set arrived into Leeds last night from Plymouth as a 7 coach formation,so looks like coach B has been removed overnight at Neville Hill depot.Coach C is labelled as coach 2 on the RTT website today.
 

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As a result of 6 coaches instead of 7 there's no catering from Plymouth to Edinburgh - that's gonna be popular with passengers!

Why couldn't they get the trolley of the 11:53 Manchester train at Plymouth and prioritise the longer Edinburgh run?
 

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As a result of 6 coaches instead of 7 there's no catering from Plymouth to Edinburgh - that's gonna be popular with passengers!

Why couldn't they get the trolley of the 11:53 Manchester train at Plymouth and prioritise the longer Edinburgh run?
Would it be something to do with the Retail Service Manager's booked duty?
 

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Had my first ride on a refurbished XC hst today, 06.11 Leeds-Plymouth between Newton Abbot and Plymouth. It then formed the return 12.27 to Edinburgh. Another set was out on the 06.06 Edinburgh to Plymouth and 15.27 Plymouth to Leeds Both are usual diagrams,
However a third was in use on the 16.42 Birmingham to Plymouth which is interesting as don't think this is a regular HST working. This passed Dawlish Warren just after 2000. A set was also visable in Laira at just before midday. Also when we arrived at Plymouth a set was also seen in platform 4. According to RTT I cannot see that the 06.06 from Edinburgh swapped sets today at Plymouth?
 
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