Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[OmniCity999]

Annoyingly the only one that's been truly unreliable is the CityLink branded one, the others, the ones used on hires are proving very reliable.

There is other service work in the pipeline for LMC which if it goes ahead, we'll see some new traction on the 913 too.

It wont be any of the Panthers, though.

 

[overthewater]

I put my hands up and say will "I don't believe it" mainly because off the roadworks but Summer Service changes it is: look at the No15

• PM0000002/160 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh to Gyle Centre or Clovenstone via Cameron Toll, Niddrie, Portobello, Leith, Goldenacre, Clermiston, Gyle
  Service number: 21 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/24 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Cramond Place to King's Buildings Campus via Blackford Station, Marchmont Road, Buccleuch Terrace, Queensferry Street, Blackhall, Davidson's Mains
  Service number: 41 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/94 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Fort Kinnaird West to Edinburgh, Airport via Clovenstone, Oxgangs Bank, RBS Gogarburn
  Service number: 400 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/409 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Ocean Terminal Edinburgh to Edinburgh Airport via Leith, Granton, Clermiston, Maybury, Ingliston Park & Ride
  Service number: 200 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/49 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Fort Kinnaird to Rosewell Turning Circle via Duddingston Park South, Brighton Place, Portobello, Wakefield Avenue, Lochend, Leith Walk, South Bridge, Clerk Street, Minto Street, Lady Road, The Wisp
  Service number: 49 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/410 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: St Andrews Square Edinburgh to Queensferry Sommerville Gardens via Ferrymuir Retail Park
  Service number: 43 (X43)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/5 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Penicuik, Deanburn to Edinburgh,Silverknowes via Burdiehouse, Minto Street, Nicolson Street, Queensferry Street, Orchard Brae
  Service number: 37 (47, X37)
  Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/361 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Newtongrange, Dalhousie Road to Semple Street, Edinburgh via Dalkeith
  Service number: X33 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/282 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh,Westburn Avenue to Sheriffhall Park & Ride via Baberton Mains Drive, Longstone, Gorgie, Haymarket, Bridges, Cameron Toll, R.I.E,
  Service number: 33 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/91 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Atholl Crescent to Rosewell via Princes Street, Surgeons Hall, The Murrays, Lasswade, Bonnyrigg
  Service number: x31 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/102 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Clovenstone to Musselburgh, Grammar School via Calder Road, Gorgie, Bridges, Prestonfield, Newcraighall, Stoneybank
  Service number: 30 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/53 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Silverknowes Promenade to Gorebridge, Birkenside via Crewe Toll, Stockbridge, Frederick Street, Princes Street, East End, Elm Row, North Bridge, Liberton Road, Gilmerton Terminus, Newtongrange Park Gates, Gore Avenue
  Service number: 29 (X29)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/7 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh,Clerwood to Tranent, Haddington Road or Seton Sands Camp
  Service number: 26 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/221 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Royal Infirmary Bus Interchange to West Granton via Blackford, Tollcross, Stockbridge, Drylaw
  Service number: 24 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/222 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Hallcroft Park to Edinburgh ASDA Chesser via Calders, Westside Plaza, Clovenstone, Kingsknowe
  Service number: 20 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/22 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Silverknowes to Westgarth Avenue via Oxgangs, Morningside, Tollcross, Elm Row, Bernard Street,
  Service number: 16 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/4 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Penicuik Deanburn to Waterloo Place
  Service number: 15 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/284 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Newhaven to Edinburgh Royal Infirmary via Leith Walk, Bridges, Cameron Toll, Liberton
  Service number: 7 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/17 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Muirhouse to New Royal Infirmary via Liberton Road, Surgeons' Hall, North Bridge, St Andrew Square, Bellevue Crescent, Granton, Muirhouse
  Service number: 8 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/3 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Clovenstone to Mayfield, Keir Hardie Drive or Dalkeith Campus via Westside Plaza, Sighthill Fire Station, Longstone, Saughton Mains, Balgreen, Haymarket, Fr3ederick St, North Bridge, Liberton Rd, Gilmerton, Dalkeith, Woodburn, Mayfield Roundabout, D'Arcy Rd, , Mayfield Keir Hardie Dr
  Service number: 3 ()
  Sevice type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I’m quite surprised it’s being cut back even further now, I thought Lochend was fine as a Terminus!

 

[Super Off-Peak]

Found two more new(?) services:

• PM0000002/504 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Birkenside, Gorebridge to Fort Kinnaird, Edinburgh via Mayfield, Dalkeith, Sheriffhall, ERI
  Service number: 48 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/503 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Leith Street, Edinburgh to Borrowman Square, Queensferry via Blackhall, Barnton, Dalmeny, Ferrymuir
  Service number: N43 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Found two more new(?) services:

• PM0000002/504 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Birkenside, Gorebridge to Fort Kinnaird, Edinburgh via Mayfield, Dalkeith, Sheriffhall, ERI
  Service number: 48 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/503 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Leith Street, Edinburgh to Borrowman Square, Queensferry via Blackhall, Barnton, Dalmeny, Ferrymuir
  Service number: N43 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

The 33 change now makes sense, it’s cut back to Sherrifhall and replaced by this 48 which you can change over, the N43 is a pleasant surprise!

I’m guessing the 21 will get a revised timetable and the X33 will be extended to Newtongrange, the 400 maybe getting even later journeys.

I hope there’s more to come, other services like the 2,27,36,45,63 and 300 could benefit from some changes. Like the 300 extending to the Royal, 63 extending to Balerno etc

Think we’ll get some EastCoast news soon?

 

[Super Off-Peak]

...I hope there’s more to come...

Yeah, seems like more changes (or a lack thereof) are being pumped into the website as we speak:

PM0000002/18 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Muirhouse to Upper Greendykes
Service number: 14 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/38 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Port Seton Alder Road to Atholl Place
Service number: X26 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/8 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Greenbank to Edinburgh, Lennox Row via Morningside, Tollcross, Hanover Street, Bellevue Crescent, Canonmills
Service number: 23 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/98 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Gyle Centre to Edinburgh, Seafield Street via Corstorphine, Haymarket, Hillside, Leith
Service number: 12 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/138 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Ocean Terminal to Fairmilehead, Hyvots Bank via Leith Walk, Princes Street, Tollcross
Service number: 11 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/95 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Edinburgh, Clermiston to Edinburgh, Leith Link via Stenhouse, Gorgie, City Centre, Leith
Service number: 1 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/11 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Edinburgh, Granton Square to Edinburgh, Marine Roundabout
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/44 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Edinburgh, Ocean Terminal to Edinburgh, Gyle Centre via Stenhouse Drive
Service number: 22 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Yeah, seems like more changes (or a lack thereof) are being pumped into the website as we speak:

PM0000002/18 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Muirhouse to Upper Greendykes
Service number: 14 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/38 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Port Seton Alder Road to Atholl Place
Service number: X26 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

PM0000002/8 Registered
LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
Route: Greenbank to Edinburgh, Lennox Row via Morningside, Tollcross, Hanover Street, Bellevue Crescent, Canonmills
Service number: 23 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

Ahh that’s exciting news! guess it’s just a matter of waiting now

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I noticed the last VOSAS for the 15 displayed X15 and this new one dosent, could the X15 be withdrawn?

 

[overthewater]

X15 probley is staying. Better Q why isnt the 48 east coast buses? I wonder if the 33 are getting the 100 seaters?

 

[buslad1988]

X15 probley is staying. Better Q why isnt the 48 east coast buses? I wonder if the 33 are getting the 100 seaters?

Makes a nice welcome change for something new NOT to be Skylink, East Coast Buses or Lothian Country! They’ve already taken 39, 40’s don’t see why they should get anything else!

Doesn’t make much difference the X15 being withdrawn tbh... when you look at the timetable there’s only a handful of stops it doesn’t serve!

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Just to check. These changes don't mean that the 43 is moving to the Lothian brand do they?

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Just to check. These changes don't mean that the 43 is moving to the Lothian brand do they?

In a way the 43 always was just a regular Lothian service just painted green with the city west zone incorporated. especially since it runs out of Central and not Deans. and the N43 will be no different just with the same fare structure for the N28 for its CityWest Zone

Again I remain optimistic but curious since we haven’t had a proper network change in almost a whole year!

 

[overthewater]

43 has always been on the lothian one.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Makes a nice welcome change for something new NOT to be Skylink, East Coast Buses or Lothian Country! They’ve already taken 39, 40’s don’t see why they should get anything else!

Doesn’t make much difference the X15 being withdrawn tbh... when you look at the timetable there’s only a handful of stops it doesn’t serve!

Plus where else could East Coast store more buses? I haven’t been to any of the open days so I can’t comment on their garage size! and it’s not like there’s anything else in East Lothian to concocr unless they went after Eve and Prentice! again if East Coast got the rights to run the 120 it would be perfect! but it’s just a case of work with what you got just now!

So let me cross my fingers and hope they extend the 140 down to Leith!!

And the X15 being withdrawn will no doubt cause some “controversy” heck when news gets out officially about the 33 being split I can imagine the Facebook comment section going angry!

 

[overthewater]

But why every part of the 33 route has a direct bus to Edinburgh by other routes... 3 29 49. Why would u waste your time on 33?

 

[TheEastCoaster]

But why every part of the 33 route has a direct bus to Edinburgh by other routes... 3 29 49. Why would u waste your time on 33?

I guess it depends on where in Edinburgh your going, the plus side to this split is the 48 will still cover the Gorebridge to Royal Infirmary section! and the 33 will still remain strong in the west of Edinburgh! I’m just wondering what garage will run the 48

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I don’t know how you.l copy and paste variations on your phone but some have popped up for the

25,36,38,45,300 etc

36 still says craiglockhart but I remember we discussed that last year and it still ran to the gyle

300 still says Cameron toll, don’t know if it’s like the 36 but would be a heavy missed opportunity to extend it down the road

25,38 and 45 are all the same

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I don’t know how you.l copy and paste variations on your phone but some have popped up for the

25,36,38,45,300 etc

36 still says craiglockhart but I remember we discussed that last year and it still ran to the gyle

300 still says Cameron toll, don’t know if it’s like the 36 but would be a heavy missed opportunity to extend it down the road

25,38 and 45 are all the same

27 popped up and it says Oxgangs or Hunters Tryst

 

[Edirim]

Marine will run the 48 I reckon.
With the shortened 33, I'm surprised they haven't lumped the Dalkeith Height 3's onto the route, even just hourly during the off peak with peak time extensions). The current 20 min frequency makes it awkward, unless they fancied increaseing it and the 49 back to every 15 mins with every second 33 extending onto Dalkeith.

 

[Edirim]

The 300 extending to the ERI would require an extra bus I think? Hence unlikely.

 

[buslad1988]

I’d imagine Marine will operate the 48 (single deck) although they’ll probably lose the 15 (double deck) to Central if it’s terminating at Waterloo Place.

Also note the 1 extended to Leith Links - maybe this will transfer to Marine too (if the 49 goes back to double deck).

Don’t forget single and double deck drivers at Lothian are on different contracts so they need to keep a certain balance whenever they do changes.

Also perhaps the new Travelshop / base at Shandwick Place is opening on the same date? Potentially seeing changeovers taking place there for breaks etc.

 

[Super Off-Peak]

I don’t know how you.l copy and paste variations on your phone but some have popped up for the 25,36,38,45,300 etc

I saw the entries you've just described. It seems like the status of a service change can be either "variation" or "registered" - only registered ones showed up in my query. I have no idea how this system works...

27 popped up and it says Oxgangs or Hunters Tryst

It has been like this since 2002, when the records began: https://www.vehicle-operator-licens...-registered-local-bus-services/details/33495/

 

[TheEastCoaster]

The 300 extending to the ERI would require an extra bus I think? Hence unlikely.

I see your point, still it’s only an extra 5-7 minutes down the road and seems like a missed opportunity, If they cut down the frequency from 20 to 30 minute throughout the day it could work?

 

[Super Off-Peak]

East Coast Buses registrations, for now:

• PM1050765/5 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Melville Street to Haddington High Street via Musselburgh
  Service number: 104 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/10 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: North Berwick Tesco to Edinburgh Semple Street via Dirleton, Gullane, Aberlady, Longniddry, Prestonpans, Musselburgh, Portobello, Meadowbank
  Service number: 124 (X24)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/21 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Semple Street to North Berwick Tesco via Meadowbank, The Jewel, Gullane
  Service number: X5 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/9 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar to Edinburgh via East Linton, Haddington, A1, The Jewel, Meadowbank
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/20 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar High Street to Dunbar Spott Road
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/19 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar or Haddington High Street to Fort Kinnaird or Musselburgh Tesco via Tranent
  Service number: 106 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

More Lothian registrations:

• PM0000002/45 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Airport to Edinburgh, Cameron Toll via RBS Gogarburn, Sighthill, Slateford Station
  Service number: 300 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/9 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Riccarton Campus to Queen Margaret University
  Service number: 45 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/10 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Woodhall Road to Western Harbour via Firrhill, Tollcross, St Andrew Square, Elm Row, Leith Walk
  Service number: 10 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/58 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, New Royal Infirmary Bus Interchange to West Granton, Scottish Gas HQ via Cameron Toll Roundabout, Balcarres Street, Balgreen, Longstone, Ravelston Dykes, Western General, Crewe Toll
  Service number: 38 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

• PM0000002/71 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, Ocean Terminal to Edinburgh, Napier Craiglockhart Campus via Lothian Road, Tollcross
  Service number: 36 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/140 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh, East Craigs Centre to Bonnyrigg (Hopefield) or Polton Mill (Cameron Crescent) via Corstorphine Road, Princes Street, North Bridge, Cameron Toll, Lasswade Road
  Service number: 31 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM0000002/26 Registered
  LOTHIAN BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Restalrig (Restalrig Avenue) to Riccarton Campus via Sighthill, Longstone, Craigentinny Avenue,Princess Street, Leith Walk, Gorgie Road, Haymarket, Calder Road
  Service number: 25 (X25)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

To the moderator reading this - apologies, I put too many links here in one go =D

Mod Note: We shall live

 

[overthewater]

• PM1050765/5 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Melville Street to Haddington High Street via Musselburgh
  Service number: 104 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/10 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: North Berwick Tesco to Edinburgh Semple Street via Dirleton, Gullane, Aberlady, Longniddry, Prestonpans, Musselburgh, Portobello, Meadowbank
  Service number: 124 (X24)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/21 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Semple Street to North Berwick Tesco via Meadowbank, The Jewel, Gullane
  Service number: X5 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/9 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar to Edinburgh via East Linton, Haddington, A1, The Jewel, Meadowbank
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop
  Effecive date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/20 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar High Street to Dunbar Spott Road
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/19 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar or Haddington High Street to Fort Kinnaird or Musselburgh Tesco via Tranent
  Service number: 106 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  

 

[TheEastCoaster]

• PM1050765/5 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Melville Street to Haddington High Street via Musselburgh
  Service number: 104 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/10 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: North Berwick Tesco to Edinburgh Semple Street via Dirleton, Gullane, Aberlady, Longniddry, Prestonpans, Musselburgh, Portobello, Meadowbank
  Service number: 124 (X24)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/21 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Edinburgh Semple Street to North Berwick Tesco via Meadowbank, The Jewel, Gullane
  Service number: X5 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/9 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar to Edinburgh via East Linton, Haddington, A1, The Jewel, Meadowbank
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Limited Stop
  Effecive date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/20 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar High Street to Dunbar Spott Road
  Service number: X7 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019
  
  
• PM1050765/19 Registered
  EAST COAST BUSES LIMITED
  Route: Dunbar or Haddington High Street to Fort Kinnaird or Musselburgh Tesco via Tranent
  Service number: 106 ()
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Jul 2019

Guessing 113/139 and 140 are not announced yet or effected.

What could they do to improve the current network here? Have the 106 run the whole route? Run the X5 on a Sunday or incorporate a proper evening timetable on the 106?

 

[overthewater]

Would it not be better to cut the 49 in half, with Rosewll - foot of Leith walk and 48 extending to cover 49 to Foot of leith walk ?

 

[scotrail158713]

What could they do to improve the current network here? Have the 106 run the whole route? Run the X5 on a Sunday or incorporate a proper evening timetable on the 106?

Running all 106 services Fort Kinnaird or Musselburgh to Dunbar, direct. Going to Dunbar just now is fine, as the 106 is on time 99% of the time, but coming back the X7 is frequently late and the 106 doesn’t wait so getting to Musselburgh then involves a 104 & 113/124.
They could also just make the 106 wait until the X7 has passed to solve this problem though.

Oh, and investing in the 113 route would be nice, but is unlikely going by ECB’s history.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Running all 106 services Fort Kinnaird or Musselburgh to Dunbar, direct. Going to Dunbar just now is fine, as the 106 is on time 99% of the time, but coming back the X7 is frequently late and the 106 doesn’t wait so getting to Musselburgh then involves a 104 & 113/124.
They could also just make the 106 wait until the X7 has passed to solve this problem though.

Oh, and investing in the 113 route would be nice, but is unlikely going by ECB’s history.

I think the long distance journeys on the X7 make it hard to stay reliable since it does cover over 30 miles! though I suppose with a 30 minute frequency it’s not bad! even so if the 106 had a proper evening service even Musselburgh towards Haddington it would continue making connections like that easy!

Can only dream! at the very least the nighthawks haven’t had any changes in awhile, i think the N106/N124 are fine but the N113 still needs to cover Pencaitland, I assume it’s popular in Ormiston

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

I think the N106/N124 are fine but the N113 still needs to cover Pencaitland, I assume it’s popular in Ormiston

Timetable doesn't allow it atmo, so won't happen unless western terminus changes which is unlikely in my view