Class 319 future

[D365]

They will most likely be LO's own fleet of 315 and 317 units.

How are they going to spare eight units from their existing fleet? The only other possibility could be the Great Northern Class 317s, which are supposed to be going off-lease by the end of this year, but apparently it seems that won't be considered.

 

[edwin_m]

How are they going to spare eight units from their existing fleet? The only other possibility could be the Great Northern Class 317s, which are supposed to be going off-lease by the end of this year, but apparently it seems that won't be considered.

Class 345s are supposed to be in service to Shenfield in May 2017 so there ought to be some 315s free soon afterwards.

 

[MatthewRead]

Class 345s are supposed to be in service to Shenfield in May 2017 so there ought to be some 315s free soon afterwards.

Good Point

 

[childwallblues]

Having travelled on the 1654 Euston-Tring yesterday (319429/457) this train should be 12 car. Maybe more for LM?

 

[DJH1971]

I saw 319219 a couple weeks ago, shame to see its gone :cry:
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I know this may be unlikely but Southern could take some Class 319's to boost capacity on metro routes and to use on the Horsham/Tonbridge line, and cascade the 377's to increase capacity on BML trains. The 319's could also be modified to work in multiple with the 455's after some work on the couplers is done. This could also allow 455's to be retractioned to improve reliability.

Wonder when it will be up at Allerton?

 

[deltic08]

That's not quite true. Number is bigger. 25 is from the GTR ITT. But your getting 377/1s for sure.

Use 319s in the Southeast when 377s are available? I never doubted it for one minute. Unreliable 319s are only good enough for the North!!

 

[Class377/5]

Use 319s in the Southeast when 377s are available? I never doubted it for one minute. Unreliable 319s are only good enough for the North!!

Not quite sure what your asking/saying here. No 319s now on SE as they've got a better deal.

 

[deltic08]

Not quite sure what your asking/saying here. No 319s now on SE as they've got a better deal.

Exactly. No need for me to say it.

 

[DarloRich]

Use 319s in the Southeast when 377s are available? I never doubted it for one minute. Unreliable 319s are only good enough for the North!!

or London Midland. on south east workings. every day. (except weekends)

and they break down all the bloody time. Send them north i say!

 

[DJH1971]

Meanwhile, today's 06:02 MCV to LIV service consists of two 319's, apparently due to a fault on one of them.

Also 7 minutes late.

 

[Wolfie]

Use 319s in the Southeast when 377s are available? I never doubted it for one minute. Unreliable 319s are only good enough for the North!!

You mean the 377s that are a member of the same family as the 375s that Southeastern already uses thus simplifying training, maintainance, logistics etc etc...

But of course a logical explanation stops the usual 'chip on shoulder' rant which continues even after the new still-heavily subsidised Northern franchise was given approval for massive acquistion of new rolling stock.

We also won't mention ongoing use of 319s by GTR and LM in ....errr the South East...

 

[swt_passenger]

Class 345s are supposed to be in service to Shenfield in May 2017 so there ought to be some 315s free soon afterwards.

Nevertheless TfL have repeatedly said they will not use another type of EMU on the Goblin on a short term basis.

I can see issues with overlapping lease costs, training duplication costs, and possibly stabling problems.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

319004/219/442/448 are all now off lease from Thameslink and have moved to Wolverton Works. They are transferred to Northern.

Interesting that 2 x TSGN liveried units are moving oop north especially as 219 is fresh from repaint...

Is this correct?

 

[petersi]

Nevertheless TfL have repeatedly said they will not use another type of EMU on the Goblin on a short term basis.



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Even if they did they would be better taking the 317 from great northern. As there depot and trainers already know the units
(Not saying goblin drivers do)

 

[childwallblues]

Even if they did they would be better taking the 317 from great northern. As there depot and trainers already know the units
(Not saying goblin drivers do)

Definitely a more sensible idea.

 

[Class377/5]

Even if they did they would be better taking the 317 from great northern. As there depot and trainers already know the units
(Not saying goblin drivers do)

Since when does Willesden know 317? That's where Goblin stock is looked after.

 

[petersi]

Since when does Willesden know 317? That's where Goblin stock is looked after.

I put it badly I meant London over ground had experience of the 317's. Not the the Team responsible for The Goblin line.

 

[87015]

Since when does Willesden know 317? That's where Goblin stock is looked after.

Well there is a 317 booked onto Willesden this week as it happens

 

[Class377/5]

Well there is a 317 booked onto Willesden this week as it happens

 

[petersi]

Mods please delete

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Can anyone confirm what livery 319.219 is in please. I read somewhere on the forum that it was at Wolverton awaiting transfer to Northern.