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But I would expect the new brand will not include First(f). "Great Transpennine Railway", anyone?![]()
All the old names are available, aren't they?
But I would expect the new brand will not include First(f). "Great Transpennine Railway", anyone?![]()
1720 Leeds-Liverpool today. 6 carriages and still standing room only. I appreciate it was very much a peak time working, but I'm questioning whether even the improved rolling stock orders of longer trains are going to be sufficient. I'd hate to be on one of the 3-car workings out of Leeds 1700-1800.
Triple units perhaps 3x3 or 3x4 ?
5 cars will make a heck of a difference over the current 3 we have (they were supposed to be 4)
1720 Leeds-Liverpool today. 6 carriages and still standing room only.
I appreciate it was very much a peak time working, but I'm questioning whether even the improved rolling stock orders of longer trains are going to be sufficient. I'd hate to be on one of the 3-car workings out of Leeds 1700-1800.
17:20? Direct? Must have been running late, in which case that will be your reason. Any TPE service running more than 5 late will start mopping up pax loadings from the service following behind thereby putting more pressure and increasing dwell time of that late runner.
If its a booked 6 car can I suggest you head to platform 16a and board the rear carriage? As its the furthest carriage away from the station at York, plus Most people stream down the stairs onto the platform at Leeds, congregate between the stairs and the waiting shelter and tend to pile on the front 4 of the 6. That end is also nearest to the exit at Huddersfield!
The number of 5-car trains being ordered against the services they will be operating does not suggest that there will be any opportunity for doubling up the new 5-car units (185s will hopefully run in pairs, at least at peak times).Can Huddersfield cope with 2*5 trains at 23 metres for each coach?
Otherwise doubled up trains are only going to be able serve certain stations namely;
Stations covered by Class 91s Edinburgh to Newcastle, then, Durham, Darlington, Northallerton, York, (Scarborough?), Hull (any other intermediate stations long enough for a full HST to Leeds?), Leeds, Manchester Piccadilly, Liverpool Lime Street, Wigan NW and stations via WCML to Scotland.
1709 from Leeds to Liverpool is booked a 6 car from Leeds onwards. The front set comes ECS from York and attaches at Leeds. The rear set, at 1641 from York, is normally full and standing from York. Even if on time, all 6 coaches are normally full and standing from Leeds to Huddersfield where it quietens down, before getting busy again at Manchester. On the not infrequent occasions it is only 3 coaches it is full and standing from York to Liverpool, and will normally leave people behind at Leeds and Dewsbury and often Manchester Oxford Road too.
The number of 5-car trains being ordered against the services they will be operating does not suggest that there will be any opportunity for doubling up the new 5-car units (185s will hopefully run in pairs, at least at peak times).
I wish we were saying goodbye to first trans-pennine express.
Crappy over-priced InterCity wannabe's who haven't done anything remotely innovative.
I wish we were saying goodbye to first trans-pennine express.
Crappy over-priced InterCity wannabe's who haven't done anything remotely innovative.
Apart from massively growing the Manchester-Scotland market since taking over from Virgin XC through proper marketing and a significantly improved service frequency?
I wish we were saying goodbye to first trans-pennine express. Crappy over-priced InterCity wannabe's who haven't done anything remotely innovative.
Branding neutral is the DfT way to go....
Do 185s need a new livery anyway? Regardless of what the most updated First livery is, they look smart in the dynamic lines livery. However, 185108 really needs to have its Capital of Culture stuff taken off!
Apparently they will introduce a neutral livery i.e. one not consisting of First Group colours. I've heard a suggestion it'll be Buckingham Green with gold lettering but whether that's actually a proposal they are considering or whether someone had guessed that from the GWR livery is a different question.
What's the betting that it'll be yet another Ray Stenning travesty?![]()
Can anyone tell me what the maximum speed is for the class 350/4 tpe operate? I had a discussion with someone and I was sure it 110mph but the person tweeted tpe and they said it was 100mph.
It's just been upgraded to 110mph. The units were always capable of it, indeed, they achieved it many times on test before gong to TPE. It's only now that NR have cleared them to run at that speed.