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Gizmogle

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Or drunkenness, and many other things. For a complete list of bible sins, see here
99. FILTHY CONVERSATION
100. FOOLISH CONVERSATION

We're all going to hell.

In some arab countries they don;t accept that women can have relationships with women because it is a concept they cannot understand.
I'm not sure if it's true or just a myth, but I remember hearing something about that kind of thing here. Queen Victoria didn't apply any age of consent for *** involving two women, because she didn't believe that they were capable of such things.

Maybe that's not true...but I did read it somewhere.
 
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Yup.....without getting two graphic, until the 1960's, most people had no idea what a dildo was, so it was make do and mend..... Of course thanks to a New York music group recently, the problem has been explained for all.......
 

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Well it's all very localised and depends on local culture, attitudes etc. Incidentally there are over 4,000 religions, and various sub-sets of those, who believe they have the path to God. Some state if you pick one of the other religions you are off to hell in any case.
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99. FILTHY CONVERSATION
100. FOOLISH CONVERSATION

We're all going to hell.

I was thinking more

11. ARGUING
 

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I get called gay all the time by virtually everyone because I wear Pink/Purple clothes and have my hair highlighted in blond. :-P
 

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Well there are a few things, not that I agree with religion at all.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

But it also says

Leviticus 11:12 - Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

So really we should be attacking those who eat shellfish too? Now that highlights the stupidity of some of the arguments. How can we be sure the bible has been translated correctly? How can we believe some things it says when it goes to contradict itself so many times? Does God really even exist at all and has the world fallen for the biggest and deadliest hoax in history?
 

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I guess we only find out when we die and we then discover if there is an eternal life, the christian heaven/hell concept, the buddhist reincarnation, or just the end.

Sadly, in recent times no one has yet reported back.
 

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Does God really even exist at all and has the world fallen for the biggest and deadliest hoax in history?
Possibly, but my question would be does anyone actually care? ;)

Of course the best Bible line is this:

"Know this, one of you; is a Decepticon!"
-Autobots 3:15
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Indeed they are just explanations of the world around us. Which is correct? No-one knows and potentially we will never know.
 

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Indeed they are just explanations of the world around us. Which is correct? No-one knows and potentially we will never know.

Which kind of renders the last page and a bit of this thread redundant.

I have to say that I've been impressed by how restrained folk have been on this discussion. Normally matters of sexuality and religion (amongst other things) being discussed on a forum descend quickly into ill-feeling and arguments, but that hasn't happened (at least not yet).

Perhaps we should quit while we're ahead.

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Well, it does seem that everyone is being a lot nicer on here on the topic, than the likes of say SABRE or TTP where the're not very nice, and I have to type as fast as in a chat room to keep up :|


"New username. Same cantankerous old git." Is that a bit like New Labor, "Same Polititions, Same Lies"?
 

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Well, it does seem that everyone is being a lot nicer on here on the topic, than the likes of say SABRE or TTP where the're not very nice, and I have to type as fast as in a chat room to keep up :|
This is a forum where we discuss a common interest - trains and railways. I think I'd be speaking for much of the membership if I were to say that we really don't care or make judgements about what people's race, sexual orientation, blood group etc is - just whether or not they like Class 37s.
 

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This is a forum where we discuss a common interest - trains and railways. I think I'd be speaking for much of the membership if I were to say that we really don't care or make judgements about what people's race, sexual orientation, blood group etc is - just whether or not they like Class 37s.

Awwwww... You're nicer than some of the pepole at the platform ends at Piccadilly. I get some right funny looks when I'm there with my boyfriend (why do I call him boyfriend after more than 2 years I don't know)
 

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This is a forum where we discuss a common interest - trains and railways. I think I'd be speaking for much of the membership if I were to say that we really don't care or make judgements about what people's race, sexual orientation, blood group etc is - just whether or not they like Class 37s.

37's?

Dont you mean Valenta Vs. MTU?
 

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This is a forum where we discuss a common interest - trains and railways. I think I'd be speaking for much of the membership if I were to say that we really don't care or make judgements about what people's race, sexual orientation, blood group etc is - just whether or not they like Class 37s.

That comment made me laugh...but is probably very true! I have to agree with O L Leigh regarding this discussion and how well it has gone. When I first saw it, I fully expected the jingling of keys to be required withing 24 hours!
 

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That comment made me laugh...but is probably very true! I have to agree with O L Leigh regarding this discussion and how well it has gone. When I first saw it, I fully expected the jingling of keys to be required withing 24 hours!

...as did I. I was pleasently surprised to see it is a sensible discussion.

As for me, I don't mind, whether someone is straight as a rule or camper than a row of pink tents (I love that expression), they're a person. Whether they are interested in men or women (or both), whether they're an atheist, christian, muslim or whatever, they remain a person.

What does annoy me, however, is those who are ignorant of others beliefs - religious people trying to convert me because I am a non believer and will go to hell etc. I want the Jehovas Witnesses to knock on the door mind, so I can tell them I'm feeling a bit ill as I've just given blood ;).
 

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Well I’ve tried to keep it fairly tempered, but as I’ve hinted at, I don’t have much truck with religion. That’s my personal belief, and I hope religious people can respect that, the same as I respect people that choose to have a faith. After all churches are rather nice places, and we are richer for them!

Far as I can tell people are religious for all sorts of reasons, some as a guide to life (albeit sometimes a selective one), sometimes as a crutch to get them through life, others simply want a ticket to the Kingdom of Heaven; some just like to think they have all the answers!

But at the same time, I do get rather miffed being told I am a bad person for not believing in what they do. Or, some of my friends, who are lovely people, are going to hell for the way they are. If there is a God, he made them, and it does seem rather ironic and somewhat cruel that such an all loving being wants to damn people forever. There are mere humans with more forgiveness and mercy. My understanding is the idea of Heaven and hell came from the Romans, not the original Christians.

There are several principal problems for me:

1. Who made God, if God many everything?
2. There are around 4000 religions; they all believe they are right, which one should I pick? After all, if I get the wrong one, I’m going to hell anyway. Most people choose theirs through an accident of birth.
3. If good people are rewarded, and bad people are punished, we should be on an evolutionary path, where the good are living wholesome and easy lives. Bad people shouldn’t be able to obtain positions of power or fortune. But we know, very decent people have terrible lives, and very bad people can have good lives sometimes. Although I still believe people should behave morally, because we are all somewhat vulnerable and ought to be able to understand if we are inflicting suffering on others. To me, that's where morals come from, not written words.
4. There remains a fundamental lack of proof.
5. Some religions have been involved in terrible atrocities. I cannot join a ‘club’ which is part of that morally for me, same as I don’t use companies that are irresponsible or involved in exploitation, cruelty etc

It is however not for me to tell other people they are wrong. And at all times, I remain waiting to be convinced otherwise.
 

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I like my religious beleifs of that there is just too much thats just right in this universe for there not to have been somone who decided it, we're proberbly some 6 year old's experement somwhere as to see who can make the best universe. The permitivity of free space colapses in all simulations if it's out on the 10E-26th digit, you can't tell me that nature did that, and if it did there was a lot of trial and error. Basicaly, do your best, be nice and you'll be fine works fine for me :)

Although for the amount of sheirete I've had to put up with.... that could change my mind... Happyer now though, although still not completly contemted with life...
 

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Could be an advanced computer game for all we know playing in the future. Lets hops they don't get that pesky send/don't send message...:)
 
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