Special services for Yorkshire - Sunday 6th July

[Suraggu]

3 loco hauled sets.
DRS Operated expected to be class 47/57 depending on what's available. 37's highly unlikely as the trains are timed for 47/57 runs.

Taken from another forum

TPE - DRS

Saturday

0622 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough 0927: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 5/advanced
0950 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street 1300: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 5/advanced
1322 Liverpool Lime Street - Scarborough 1627: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 5/advanced
1650 Scarborough - Liverpool Lime Street 2000: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 5/advanced

Sunday

0600 Liverpool Lime Street - York 0828: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 6/advanced
1200 York - Manchester Piccadilly 1330: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 6/advanced
1400 Manchester Piccadilly - Doncaster 1540: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 6/advanced
1750 Doncaster - Liverpool Lime Street 2055 (via Thrybergh Jn): http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U ... 6/advanced

Northern - DRS

Saturday

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...-0159?stp=WVS&show=pax-calls&order=wtt&toc=ZZ

Sunday

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/sea...6/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=ZZ

Northern - DBS 67s/Pretendolino

Saturday

1H01 1115 Leeds – Harrogate 1146
1H02 1154 Harrogate – Leeds 1224
1H03 1315 Leeds – Harrogate 1345
1H04 1354 Harrogate – Leeds 1424
1H05 1436 Leeds – Harrogate 1509
1H06 1519 Harrogate – Leeds 1550
1H09 1915 Leeds – Harrogate 1945
1H10 1954 Harrogate – Leeds 2021
1H11 2039 Leeds – York 2149 (via Harrogate)
1H12 2230 York – Leeds 2329 (via Harrogate)

Sunday

1Z10 0700 Leeds – Harrogate 0730
1Z11 0735 Harrogate – Leeds 0800
1L01 0829 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 0913 (via Bradford Int 0842 – 0846)
5L01 0915 Hebden Bridge – Leeds 1014 (ECS)
1L03 1036 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 1119 (via Bradford Int 1049 – 1055)
5L03 1134 Hebden Bridge – Bradford Int 1230 (ECS)
5L02 1335 Bradford Int – Hebden Bridge 1414 (ECS)
1L02 1419 Hebden Bridge – Leeds 1509 (via Bradford Int 1448 – 1451)
5L04 1616 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 1715 (ECS)
1L04 1718 Hebden Bridge – Leeds

 

[yorkie]

those links aren't complete...

 

[Suraggu]

those links aren't complete...

Aye I see the copy and paste didn't do its job. But none the less those trains will be Loco Hauled over that weekend.

 

[Deerfold]

A DVT would make sens for the large volume of bikes expected.

Northern have been making lots of announcements that they will be rigidly sticking to their 2 bikes per train policy over the weekend of the TdF.

 

[infobleep]

Why don't they just ban all bikes as Southern do during the London to Brighton bike ride.

 

[ST PADDY]

According to the Northern rail Tour De France web site there are a number of other additional services running to/from Harrogate on July 5th to those shown above /below, including three through East Coast services in either direction. Go to the above web site and follow the York – Harrogate –Leeds link. These services are also shown on the National rail enquires journey planner web site.
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According to the Northern rail Tour De France web site there are a number of other additional services running to/from Harrogate on July 5th to those shown above /below, including three through East Coast services. Go to the above web site and follow the York – Harrogate –Leeds link. These services are also shown on the National rail enquires journey planner web site.

 

[jopsuk]

(Hopefully) complete alterations for the whole weekend, including the Monday, here

 

[ash39]

Does anyone have further info on the pretendolino formed service?

I assumed the DVT would be used, but thinking about it the Pretendolino DVT may not have the modifications required to work with a 67, nor might the 67 supplied be a DVT-compatible one, so could it be top n tailed?

I've also seen mention of DRS 57s on it, but I think that's someone confusing it with the other loco hauled trains.

 

[FQ]

Does anyone have further info on the pretendolino formed service?

I assumed the DVT would be used, but thinking about it the Pretendolino DVT may not have the modifications required to work with a 67, nor might the 67 supplied be a DVT-compatible one, so could it be top n tailed?

I've also seen mention of DRS 57s on it, but I think that's someone confusing it with the other loco hauled trains.

Yep,
1 set is going to be Top and tailed 67s with the Pretendolino and the other with 57s.

 

[Tim R-T-C]

The Virgin set seems like an odd choice, long way to drag it, particularly if they are not going to use the DVT.

 

[FQ]

The 67s with the Pretendolino set Should be 67006+67017.

 

[ash39]

Would be brilliant if so, got photos of most of the non-Chiltern/Scottish based ones but need these two!

 

[thealexweb]

Is the Pretendalino officially a Northern or TPE service? Which services will it be running?

 

[sprinterguy]

Is the Pretendalino officially a Northern or TPE service? Which services will it be running?

Northern. See post 61 at the top of this page for all the answers:

Northern - DBS 67s/Pretendolino

Saturday

1H01 1115 Leeds – Harrogate 1146
1H02 1154 Harrogate – Leeds 1224
1H03 1315 Leeds – Harrogate 1345
1H04 1354 Harrogate – Leeds 1424
1H05 1436 Leeds – Harrogate 1509
1H06 1519 Harrogate – Leeds 1550
1H09 1915 Leeds – Harrogate 1945
1H10 1954 Harrogate – Leeds 2021
1H11 2039 Leeds – York 2149 (via Harrogate)
1H12 2230 York – Leeds 2329 (via Harrogate)

Sunday

1Z10 0700 Leeds – Harrogate 0730
1Z11 0735 Harrogate – Leeds 0800
1L01 0829 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 0913 (via Bradford Int 0842 – 0846)
5L01 0915 Hebden Bridge – Leeds 1014 (ECS)
1L03 1036 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 1119 (via Bradford Int 1049 – 1055)
5L03 1134 Hebden Bridge – Bradford Int 1230 (ECS)
5L02 1335 Bradford Int – Hebden Bridge 1414 (ECS)
1L02 1419 Hebden Bridge – Leeds 1509 (via Bradford Int 1448 – 1451)
5L04 1616 Leeds – Hebden Bridge 1715 (ECS)
1L04 1718 Hebden Bridge – Leeds

 

[Tim R-T-C]

Latest updates from various sites (sorry, don't know the original sources, but all due thanks to them).

57309 has been called to Thunderbird on the WCML so 47810 is expected to be standing in, presumably on the Northern Harrogate shuttle.

67017 working on the Fife Circle, so 67027 now booked along with 67006. They will be working with the DB DVT 82146, giving a very odd mix of colours on the train, DB red, DB silver, VWC and Royal.

 

[M60lad]

Will it be Northern Staff doing the ticket checks/doors on these services as I'm guessing they would have had to have had training on these trains before working them unless I'm wrong

 

[northwichcat]

A Knottingley diagram is coming up as being run by 2 coaches instead of 3.

 

[Hebden Bridger]

Will it be Northern Staff doing the ticket checks/doors on these services as I'm guessing they would have had to have had training on these trains before working them unless I'm wrong

With 10 to 20,000 people expected at Hebden Bridge, which will only be accessible by road from the west (and with all car parking taken up by residents whose cars have been displaced from the route), I really don't think there will be much in the way of ontrain ticket checking done! The only realistic alternative to train travel are park and ride services from Halifax to Mytholmroyd and Todmorden to Hebden.

 

[dfurn]

Is the Pretendalino officially a Northern or TPE service? Which services will it be running?

The 1315h from Leeds to Harrogate is a Northern service. Just seen it. Royal Train loco and all!

 

[dfurn]

.... and at the other end....

 

[Crossover]

Odd seeing VT colours in Leeds. Interesting that they've let the DVT on (useful for bikes, I guess!)

 

[ash39]

More interesting that they've taken the pretendolino dvt off and put on the DB one.

 

[matt]

Odd seeing VT colours in Leeds. Interesting that they've let the DVT on (useful for bikes, I guess!)

They would have need a brake vehicle so thats why it has a DVT. I suspect it was also cheaper for DB to use their own DVT rather than also hire the Virgin one.

 

[DarloRich]

i have unconfirmed reports that a pair of class 20's may be working this evening on hebden bridge services - perhaps someone connected to the matrix will confirm

 

[4SRKT]

i have unconfirmed reports that a pair of class 20's may be working this evening on hebden bridge services - perhaps someone connected to the matrix will confirm

47810 failed at Blackburn I heard, and the 20s on instead.

 

[yorksrob]

Out of interest, did the Pretendolino have its first class accommodation ?

I only managed the DRS Mk 2's on transpennine, however, I was very impressed with the interior condition of the carriages.

 

[47802]

20's went on at Bradford then bizarrely sent on a direct working to Sheffield, but now they are supposed to be working the 19-29 Hebden Bridge to Blackburn, so exactly what route they have taken to get to Hebden Bridge, no idea. Hell of a racket out of Bradford I think only 1 loco was working in multi so a real struggle up the hill towards Leeds.

 

[DarloRich]

Out of interest, did the Pretendolino have its first class accommodation ?

I only managed the DRS Mk 2's on transpennine, however, I was very impressed with the interior condition of the carriages.

yes one FC mkiiii was in the rake i used it as i had a first class ticket - the tpe drs rake also had fc compartments in the half brake

 

[Suraggu]

The 20's took the Mk.2 set to Sheffield non stop in the day to move the sheer amount of spectators heading to Sheffield.

I believe its now back on the circuit.

On the TPE, a little bit of conflicting info when the track spread underneath 47853 in Holgate Sidings but quick 185 to Leeds and all able to board the stock and running went really well. Including the run to Sheffield, on time arrival into Doncaster.

I have to say TPE and DRS did a brilliant job, the stock cleaned regularly, superb Revenue Protection and the 47's were brilliant. Lovely to see old faces and be able to get that urge to get back out their.

 

[4SRKT]

What route did the 20s take to Sheffield? Pudsey, Engine Shed, Kirkgate etc?