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XC Voyager Refurbishment

cambsy

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Had 220029 which think newly refurbished, on the 14.04 Edinburgh-Plymouth ( from York to Plymouth) on Monday 17th Aug, which got to try out First Class, due to getting a Seat Frog 1st class upgrade for £36.00. I thought the seats looked nice, but they were quite hard, and maybe prefer the standard class seats for comfort, as others have said. I would still personally go First class for the right price, for its extra space and complimentary food and drinks.
 
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GoneSouth

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That looks terrible. Looks like it should be next in the queue for a full strip down and refurb.

Us passengers don’t help though, I was due to be on a Leeds to Reading service which was cancelled on Saturday and somebody told me it was announced to be because of vandalism inside the train. Anybody know what it was?
 

Liam L

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That looks terrible. Looks like it should be next in the queue for a full strip down and refurb.

Us passengers don’t help though, I was due to be on a Leeds to Reading service which was cancelled on Saturday and somebody told me it was announced to be because of vandalism inside the train. Anybody know what it was?
221s aren't being done till 220s are done so got awhile yet. I don't think many crosscountry passengers will mind if peeling vinyls, they just want it to turn up
 

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221s aren't being done till 220s are done so got awhile yet. I don't think many crosscountry passengers will mind if peeling vinyls, they just want it to turn up
I have just gotten off 221141 at Birmingham and it is holding up well internally compared to a few of the other 221s I've been on. The worst units externally seem to be the ex-Avanti units, specifically 221112 and 221115 but they are meant to be left until last of course.
 

Russel

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Is it possible they might skip the queue for some units? My train today is booked as 221141 which reminded me of the state I saw it in back on the 7th August.

(Image shows unit 221141 with very patchy paintwork on one of the driving motors. This is the case along each of the 4 coaches.)

Was a result of graffiti removal I believe.
 

UsefulPenguin

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Current refurb list from internal at XC:

220001
220002
220003
220006
220007
220008
220013
220016
*220017 (undergoing)
*220019 (undergoing)
220021
220023
220025
220027
220028
220029
*220031 (undergoing)
220033
 

LarryRailer

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On 220028, Edinburgh to Cardiff. I don’t like the seats in First Class - agree with others who say it’s a downgrade in terms of comfort. The accessible toilet in Coach A already has a misaligned toilet seat - risk that someone could fall off the edge - or break the plastic seat, if sufficiently heavy!!

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On 220028, Edinburgh to Cardiff. I don’t like the seats in First Class - agree with others who say it’s a downgrade in terms of comfort. The accessible toilet in Coach A already has a misaligned toilet seat - risk that someone could fall off the edge - or break the plastic seat, if sufficiently heavy!!
Off topic, but usual deception from CC regarding catering in First Class - no sandwiches (or hot food) load for First Class - but they did have sandwiches (well, one by the time it reached me) for sale from the Standard Class trolley. Someone (advertising standards?) should COMPEL them to supply to First Class ticket holders, regardless of “separate supply chains” which is just a con. It’s the same company, for goodness sake!
 
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jazzy

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Might as well make a list:

220001 - Refurbished - In Service
220002 - Unrefurbished
- In Service
220003 - Undergoing Refurbishment at Derby
220004 - Refurbished - Awaiting entry back into service
220005 - Unrefurbished - In Service (Pride Livery)
220006 - Refurbished - In Service
220007 - Refurbished - In Service
220008 - Refurbished - In Service
220009 - Unrefurbished - In Service (Hixon)
220010 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220011 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220012 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220013 - Refurbished - In Service
220014 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220015 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220016 - Refurbished - In Service (Voyager20)
220017 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220018 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220019 - Undergoing Refurbishment at Derby
220020 - Unrefurbished - In Service

220021 - Refurbished - In Service
220022 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220023 - Refurbished - In Service
220024 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220025 - Refurbished - In Service
220026 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220027 - Refurbished - In Service
220028 - Refurbished - In Service
220029 - Undergoing Refurbishment at Derby
220030 - Unrefurbished - In Service

220031 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220032 - Unrefurbished - In Service
220033 - Refurbished - In Service
220034 - Unrefurbished - In Service
Could this be updated please?
 

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