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That would make sense. Since Ilford is Bombardier, it makes sense for modification work to happen there. I’m guessing the works will consist of a full repaint, deep clean, replacement of seats covers/carpets and removal of DOO equipment.
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I doubt they’ll remove the DOO equipment. WMT may not be DOO yet but it will be no surprise to anyone if they try to implement in the next few years, given what’s happening elsewhere.

Toilet was rumoured to be added as well. But the alleged fact it’s been sat there for 5 months is poor.
 
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323242 has now been tangoed, and bears an additional Armistice Centenary vinyl at each cab end on both sides.
(Edit: Nuneaton is now fully clad in LNWR green, but no signs have changed)
 
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HLE said:
I doubt they’ll remove the DOO equipment. WMT may not be DOO yet but it will be no surprise to anyone if they try to implement in the next few years, given what’s happening elsewhere.

Toilet was rumoured to be added as well. But the alleged fact it’s been sat there for 5 months is poor.
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Perhaps the reason why it's languished there is that the final interior (decor and layout) hasn't been decided?
There's no point in doing a full refurb until the interior's been finalised. None of the 172s currently in WMR service have any hint of interior refurbishment.
 
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Perhaps the reason why it's languished there is that the final interior (decor and layout) hasn't been decided?
There's no point in doing a full refurb until the interior's been finalised. None of the 172s currently in WMR service have any hint of interior refurbishment.
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I’m guessing it’s sat there as WMT’s lease hasn’t commenced yet. They’re not going to pay for a unit which as it stands would spend a few months just on crew training on the intended routes.

Several things have occurred recently especially when it comes to supposedly soon to be cascaded stock, that makes me question just how far off the 172 cascade really is. I can see the 150’s going once the 230’s bed in on the Bedford line, but that’s about it for the next 6 months or so.
 
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Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 9/11/18).
Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
All WMR-operated stations between Coventry (exc.) & Wolverhampton (inc.) are in WMR orange & grey, with Network WM or LM signage.
N.B. Wolverhampton also has WMR signage.

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
>Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Chester Road: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Five Ways: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>University: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bournville: Network WM signs, Purple "Cadbury" lampposts
>Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wilmcote: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wootton Wawen: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Henley-in-Arden: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Danzey: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wood End: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Lakes: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Earlswood: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wythall: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Whitlocks End: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shirley: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Yardley Wood: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Hall Green: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Spring Road: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts; depot has orange/grey lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WMsigns, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs, orange/purple lampposts
>Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, orange/black/grey lampposts/fences (confirmed as of 9/11)
>The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
>Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Great Malvern: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Colwall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
>Witton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Perry Barr: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (n.b. yellow handrails)
>Hamstead: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (n.b. yellow handrails)
>Tame Bridge Parkway: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts (n.b. orange handrails)
>Bescot Stadium: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts & handrails
>Walsall: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts & handrails
>Bloxwich: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich North: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Landywood: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cannock: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hednesford: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley Town: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Others
>Water Orton: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tamworth HL: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts
>Stone: orange & white??
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
>Coventry Arena: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bedworth: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bermuda Park: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Albrighton: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Telford Central: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Penkridge: LM signs, old-style LMS lampposts

Trains
Class 139
139001: LM livery, WMR branding
139002: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
150105: LM livery, WMR branding
150107: ditto
150109: ditto

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise) - all in WMR "outgoing" livery

Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170630: LM livery, WMR branding
170631: LM livery, WMR branding
170632: WMR "outgoing" livery (confirmed as of 20/11)
170633: LM livery, WMR branding
170634: WMR "outgoing" livery
170635: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
172001: still with LO
172002: at Ilford awaiting mods, refurbishment & repaint
172003: as per 001
172004: ditto
172005: ditto
172006: ditto
172007: ditto
172008: ditto

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
172211: LM livery, WMR branding
172212: ditto
172213: ditto
172214: ditto
172215: ditto
172216: ditto
172217: ditto
172218: ditto
172219: ditto
172220: ditto
172221: ditto
172222: ditto

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway)
172331-335: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172336: Final orange/purple WMR livery with Armistice 100 stripe (confirmed as of 12/11)
172337: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172338: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172339: Final orange/purple WMR livery (confirmed as of 20/11)
172340-344: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172345: Final orange/purple WMR livery (confirmed as of 12/11)

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise)
323201-213: WMR "outgoing" livery
323214: LM livery, WMR branding
323215: WMR "outgoing" livery
323216: WMR "outgoing" livery
323217: WMR "outgoing" livery; PRM mods underway
323218-221: WMR "outgoing" livery; (221 has BTP branding on centre coach and retains grey doors)
323222: LM livery, WMR branding
323240: WMR "outgoing" livery
323241: LM livery, WMR branding
323242: WMR "outgoing" livery with Armistice 100 stripe
323243: LM livery, WMR branding

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!
 
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And a similarly updated list for the LNWR fleet/stations (as of 09/11/18).
Mods - again, feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
WCML
>Watford Junction: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Kings Langley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Apsley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hemel Hempstead: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Berkhamsted: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tring: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts(confirmed as of 23/11)
>Cheddington: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts(confirmed as of 23/11)
>Leighton Buzzard: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Bletchley: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Milton Keynes Central: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Wolverton: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts(confirmed as of 23/11)
>Northampton: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Long Buckby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Nuneaton: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Atherstone: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts in car park only; LM-style lampposts still present on platforms (confirmed as of 14/11)
>Polesworth: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts (confirmed as of 14/11)
>Tamworth: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts on both levels
>Lichfield TV: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley TV: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Winsford: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Hartford: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts
>Acton Bridge: LM signs, two-tone green/grey (LNWR) lampposts

Abbey Line
>Watford North: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Garston: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bricket Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>How Wood: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Park Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>St. Albans Abbey: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Marston Vale Line
>Fenny Stratford: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bow Brickhill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Woburn Sands: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aspley Guise: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ridgmont: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lidlington: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Millbrook (Beds): LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stewartby: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kempston Hardwick: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bedford St. Johns: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Trains
Class 230
230003: Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230004: Not yet delivered, assumed to be in Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery
230005: Not yet delivered, assumed to be in Full (Marston Vale) LNWR livery

Class 319
319002: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319005: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319008: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319012: Thameslink livery, unbranded (not yet in service)
319013: LM livery, LNWR branding
319215: Thameslink livery, unbranded
319216: LM livery, LNWR branding
319220: Thameslink livery, unbranded (now in service; confirmed as of 8/11)
319429: LM livery, LNWR branding
319433: LM livery, LNWR branding
319441: LM livery, LNWR branding
319457: LM livery, LNWR branding (with white cab ends)
319460: LM livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/1
350101-109: LM livery, LNWR branding
350110: LM "Project 110" livery, LNWR branding
350111-130: LM Livery, LNWR branding

Class 350/2 (due to leave the franchise)
350231: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350232: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350233: LM livery, LNWR branding
350234: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350235: LM livery (with BTP wrap), LNWR branding
350236-238: LM livery, LNWR branding
350239: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350240: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350241-243: LM livery, LNWR branding
350244: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350245: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350246-251: LM livery, LNWR branding
350252-254: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350255: LM livery, LNWR branding
350256: LM livery, LNWR branding
350257-259: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350260: LM livery, LNWR branding
350261: LM livery, LNWR branding
350262: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350263: LNWR "outgoing" livery
350264-266: LM livery, LNWR branding
350267: LNWR "outgoing" livery

Class 350/3 - all reliveried
350368-375, 377: Full (revised) LNWR livery, with 1st Class Stripe
350376: Full (revised) LNWR livery, with 1st Class Stripe & Armistice 100 stripes at the cab ends (confirmed as of 12/11)
 
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Will the LNR stations get new signs or is it possible they'll just keep the LM station signs (be it with the LM logos removed as they have been)?
 
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Will the LNR stations get new signs or is it possible they'll just keep the LM station signs (be it with the LM logos removed as they have been)?
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Those signs are incrediboy smart as they are

Govia replaced signs on southern and southeastern as well

Some of the ex fcc stations could do with new signs however
 
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Those signs are incrediboy smart as they are

Govia replaced signs on southern and southeastern as well

Some of the ex fcc stations could do with new signs however
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Although LNR don't use that font do they? Could it be a requirement that the station signs must have the brand name on them at some point?
 
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Although LNR don't use that font do they? Could it be a requirement that the station signs must have the brand name on them at some point?
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Greater Anglia's network still has a large number of stations in either NXEA, One, or even Anglia Railways colours. They are catching up though.

It may be the case that the final sign product of LNR is still in the design stage.
 
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>Great Malvern: WMR "Innovation Station" signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
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Colwall and Ledbury have old-style GWR lampposts. Great Malvern still has LM signs.
 
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