Who is this sign for?

[CheesyChips]

I'm not overly familiar with the training that train drivers undertake but I have no doubt that it's comprehensive and to a high standard, but I see this "electric trains stop here" sign at the end of one of the platforms at Walsall station and can't help but wonder whose benefit it is there for?

Surely no electric train would be routed this way anyway and therefore no driver would have any reason to proceed past this point?

Route knowledge would surely involve knowledge like this?

 

[krus_aragon]

I expect it's just there as a reminder, similar to “limit of shunt” boards at sidings. Better to stop under the wires and call the signaller than be “beached” half a mile further on.

I'm not familiar with the Walsall area (I've seen such signs around Crewe), but if an electric loco/unit were shunting around for whatever reason, the driver may well recall they can't go all the way, but appreciate a reminder of exactly where the point of no return lies.

 

[Ash Bridge]

I remember those fitted to the electrification masts on the Guide Bridge line at Heaton Norris Junc. as far back as the early seventies where as kids we used to spend hours sat on the wall at Stitch Lane watching diesel to electric loco changeovers on evening southbound freight and parcel trains, they are nothing new and have no doubt been installed from the outset at all points where the electrified section of line ceases/commences, I would go with krus_aragon regarding their purpose.

 

[Ploughman]

It is a reminder that Electric stock does not pass this point as it says.
The reason being is that "If it can happen It will happen" and has.
First Electric charter into York following the electrification of the ECML was routed onto P4 for the Scarborough line.
Pantograph off the end of the wire.

 

[ComUtoR]

I would go with krus_aragon regarding their purpose.

I wouldn't. Limit of shunt boards/lights are different.

 

[Jamesb1974]

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[68000]

 

[6Gman]

Electric
Trains
Stop
Here





and if you don't you soon will ...

 

[Philip Phlopp]

Electric
Trains
Stop
Here





and if you don't you soon will ...

It's the trouble it causes which is the reason.

The need to inspect the pantograph and probably have it overhauled/replaced is the bigger problem, in addition to fetching a diesel loco to haul the EMU back to base, or to get the unit back under the OLE by hook or by crook then dragging it dead with another EMU.

It'll have a unit out of service for a day or more, depending on what needs done, but pan overheight trips are a bit of a nuisance to deal with.

 

[edwin_m]

There are also variants on the approaches to junctions, one recent and temporary one being at Ordsall Lane "Electric trains no access to Bolton line" IIRC.

 

[AM9]

Here'sone I took last year at Manchester Victoria. It is at the eastern end of the through platforms at the base of Miles Platting bank, where the wiring stops.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/16926180649/in/album-72157651885501412/

 

[Philip Phlopp]

Here'sone I took last year at Manchester Victoria. It is at the eastern end of the through platforms at the base of Miles Platting bank, where the wiring stops.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/16926180649/in/album-72157651885501412/

I'll be happy to see that sign removed, and hopefully its new home is just as short lived.

 

[krus_aragon]

I'll be happy to see that sign removed, and hopefully its new home is just as short lived.

It might get replaced with one by December:


(Railway sign reading "Santa stop here")

 

[dgl]

Similar sign at Dorchester junction (if that is what it's called) on the way from Weymouth where the Heart of the Wessex line joins the SWML.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Pre-rebuild, there were signs on the approach to Leeds stating "Electric Trains: No Access to Platform 12". What was platform 12 is now 15 and is wired, though not used by electric trains very often yet.

 

[HarleyDavidson]

It might get replaced with one by December:


(Railway sign reading "Santa stop here")

How did that get there? Didn't anyone read the Elf & Safety Claus about not climbing gantries.

And as for running off the juice... Been there done that!

 

[Signal Head]

Many years ago I was on the end of Kings Cross platform when a loaded 312 EMU was misrouted towards unwired the diesel depot sidings. It got far enough for the pan to slip off the edge of the OLE.

The train came to a fairly quick halt, unfortunately having gone far enough to block in the diesel locos which could have been used to push it back. I wasn't able to stay around to see how that was resolved, or how long it took.