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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

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Dgss1

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It's getting increasingly likely the 323s will go into October at this rate! By the looks of it there no changes again next week to the diagram situation.
I have emigrated out of the country but am flying back Sunday morning and am absolutely desperate to get one last day on 323s on the cross-city in, am I now safe?
 
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I have emigrated out of the country but am flying back Sunday morning and am absolutely desperate to get one last day on 323s on the cross-city in, am I now safe?
If you time it right and the train doesn't break down, hopefully you'll be fine!

Just look at the patterns people have posted and hopefully you can work out where the train will depart your preferred station.
 

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Observations Tuesday 17th September 2024.
Four oaks to Redditch
323222 323240.

Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323216 323221 till 1136 am after 1623 pm.

Various disruptions today due to Aston signal failures and issues around Longbridge with points,
With notably the Bromsgrove to Lichfield diagram suspended best part of the day and following on Four oaks to Redditch terminating at Longbridge Various late running and points issues there also.
 

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I have emigrated out of the country but am flying back Sunday morning and am absolutely desperate to get one last day on 323s on the cross-city in, am I now safe?
Next week up until Friday yes. Friday 27th is currently planned to be the last day according to multiple sources.
 

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Here is my 'Ready Reckoner' for Four Oaks for both diagrams. (These times might be a minute or two out compared with the actual timetable).
StationDirectionTimeTrain
Four OaksTo Redditch05:47Diagram3 2R03
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove06:56Diagram4 2O08
Four OaksFrom Redditch08:10Diagram3 2U10
Four OaksTo Redditch08:17Diagram3 2R13
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove09:00Diagram4 2P13
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove09:56Diagram4 2O20
Four OaksFrom Redditch10:40Diagram3 2U20
Four OaksTo Redditch10:47Diagram3 2R23
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove12:00Diagram4 2P25
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove12:56Diagram4 2O32
Four OaksFrom Redditch13:10Diagram3 2U30
Four OaksTo Redditch13:17Diagram3 2R33
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove15:00Diagram4 2P37
Four OaksFrom Redditch15:40Diagram3 2U40
Four OaksTo Redditch15:47Diagram3 2R43
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove15:56Diagram4 2O44
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove18:00Diagram4 2P49
Four OaksFrom Redditch18:10Diagram3 2U50
Four OaksTo Redditch18:17Diagram3 2R53
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove18:56Diagram4 2O56
Four OaksFrom Redditch20:40Diagram3 2U60
Four OaksTo Redditch20:47Diagram3 2R63
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove21:00Diagram4 2P61
Four OaksTo Bromsgrove21:56Diagram4 2O68
Four OaksFrom Redditch23:10Diagram3 2U70
Four OaksFrom Bromsgrove00:00Diagram4 2U73 to Four Oaks
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13.16 is definitely one of the departures from Four Oaks.The other one leaves Lichfield at 12.39 so is 20 minutes behind it.

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Nice one
 

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Next week up until Friday yes. Friday 27th is currently planned to be the last day according to multiple sources.
If you time it right and the train doesn't break down, hopefully you'll be fine!

Just look at the patterns people have posted and hopefully you can work out where the train will depart your preferred station.
Thank you very much, very relieved to hear this. Last time I flew back I didn't dedicate time to 323 bash and thought I may have messed up on that big time.
 

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216 + 221 - Four Oaks - Redditch
222 + 240 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

:)
Service is a mess due to points at four oaks failing, points are now clipped but the bay is not accessible so presumably the service is going to be in a mess for the rest of the day now.
 

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Service is a mess due to points at four oaks failing, points are now clipped but the bay is not accessible so presumably the service is going to be in a mess for the rest of the day now.

At one point it looks like 216+221 went to Soho to get it out of the way but maybe the issue is sorted as its showing as booked to Four Oaks currently, we will see!

Also it looks like 222+240 had a little side trip to Birmingham International!
 

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Observations Wednesday 18 September 2024.

Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323240 323222 till 1305 stabling Four Oaks till 1430, then to Birmingham New Street.
However visiting Birmingham International for a hour, before resumption on the 2044 1623 Birmingham New Street to Bromsgrove then as booked.

Redditch to Four Oaks,
323216 323221 However 1245 to 1615 returning to Soho Lmd for some attention and light maintenance.

Yet another day for service disruption on cross city north.
 

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Redditch to Four Oaks,
323216 323221 However 1245 to 1615 returning to Soho Lmd for some attention and light maintenance.
They went back to Soho to clear new street due to disruption, they came back for 13:43 to Redditch as I photographed them arriving in empty.

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No path in yet but I'm told 2 more 323s go off lease on Monday, 1 diagram for the final 5 days of operation in West Midlands.
 
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They went back to Soho to clear new street due to disruption, they came back for 13:43 to Redditch as I photographed them arriving in empty.
Okay, thanks for the update, because I returned to Birmingham New Street and got and photographed them myself coming in at 1623, and looking at Website Old Rail Record, they actually did the 1343 to Redditch from Birmingham New Street reinstated, then formed the 1431 Redditch to Birmingham New Street, arriving at 1515, back to Soho for a second time, then resumption in full on 1615 to Redditch from Birmingham New Street.
 

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Observations Thursday 19th September 2024.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323240 323222

Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323216 323221

323215 remaining Soho.

Has 323215 now finished or still repair at Soho does anyone know please??

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No path in yet but I'm told 2 more 323s go off lease on Monday, 1 diagram for the final 5 days of operation in West Midlands.
So tomorrow is the last chance of seeing two 323's passing at Wylde Green at 13:02.

I'm disappointed that the last day of 323's in service will be Friday. I'm surprised too, as in the past the diagram allocations have only been in effect from a Monday. I wonder why nothing will be out next Saturday.
 

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If it's anything like the 507s they are there but totally in reserve, I'm not sure if a simulation situation will occur here? IE they had a farewell tour and the next day one 507 was back out!
 

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So tomorrow is the last chance of seeing two 323's passing at Wylde Green at 13:02.

I'm disappointed that the last day of 323's in service will be Friday. I'm surprised too, as in the past the diagram allocations have only been in effect from a Monday. I wonder why nothing will be out next Saturday.
Presumably preparation for the tour on the Sunday. Then withdrawal. Staff farewell event being held on 4th October then off lease I think is the current plan.

As it stands tomorrow will be the last day to get a 323 down the Redditch branch too
 

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There is a path in the system from Wolverton to Allerton tomorrow. Is this the two that have been repainted or two off lease 323s for spares?
First repaint isn't due out till 28th, They be coming out separately from what I can gather.

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323215 & 216 are due off on Monday leaving 221,222,240 or the last week
 
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First repaint isn't due out till 28th, They be coming out separately from what I can gather.

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323215 & 216 are due off on Monday leaving 221,222,240 or the last week
Which 323 is running the 5H70 today?
Any information would be appreciated.
 
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Hi, I’m going to Birmingham on 28th september and posts above suggest the 323s will already be gone. Any idea why? In the past diagrams have continued until Saturdays.
 

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Observations Saturday 21st September 2024
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323215 North End 323221 South End.

Redditch to Four Oaks
323240 South End 323222 North End.

Looking like
323216 Final day Friday 20th September
Whilst working Redditch to Four Oaks

323215 Final day Saturday 21st September
Whilst working Bromsgrove to Lichfield.

323216 Saturday 21st September 2024
Soho most likely undergoing off lease handback checks.
 

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Glad 215 made a appearance for one last time before it's departure on Monday! Just had a nice run down the lickey bank on it!
 
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