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West Midlands Class 323 - the final countdown

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Observations this morning whilst passing through New Street
323221+204 1103 BMV LTV
730017/45 1116 FOK RDC
730031/12 1109 LTV BMV
323218/216 1129 BMV LTV

Hope this is of use to someone
 
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There were a couple of pairs out on Tuesday as well as a 3 car.
All observations were at Selly Oak

Those 730’s are nice units as are the 196’s
 
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Observation on Tuesday 18th June 2024.
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215 Solo
323222 Solo
323216 323218 Double Pair. 3 diagrams

Bromsgrove to Lichfields. Both Double pairs.
323204 323221
323201 323203. Two diagrams.
Nb. A Bromsgrove diagram this week does stable overnight at Four Oaks.
Next day it does the Four Oaks to Redditch.
 
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Observations Wednesday 19th June 2024
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215
323222
323201 323203
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323221 323204
323218 323216.
 
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When the 16 323s have been transferred (depending on the situation of 214 to let 218 move north), will they start going for refresh before going into service or go in service as they are?
 
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jonesy3001 said:
When the 16 323s have been transferred (depending on the situation of 214 to let 218 move north), will they start going for refresh before going into service or go in service as they are?
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17 units to go through so I'd presume most (if not all) of them will go into service in the state they are in.
 
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Liam L said:
17 units to go through so I'd presume most (if not all) of them will go into service in the state they are in.
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Have any been in service since they've transferred north, know about the ones that are stabled in wigan and preston, 202,208 and 212, 220 in regular service, might as well do something to them instead of gathering dust at Allerton.
 
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Observations Thursday 20th June 2024
Redditch to Four Oaks
323215 solo
323222 solo
323204 323221
Bromsgrove to Lichfield
323218 323216
323211 323240.
 
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Todays daily update. 730s highlighted in red. Interesting to note besides 201 all the others at Soho are heading to Northern at some point. Could just be coincidence! Edit as Liam has pointed out that 213 and 241 have none left for pastures new rather than being at Soho

204 + 221 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
211 + 240 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
006 + 011 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
007 + 046 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
015 + 019 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
017 + 018 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove


215 - Four Oaks - Redditch
216 +218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
222 - Four Oaks - Redditch
012 + 031 - Four Oaks - Redditch
020 + 047 - Four Oaks - Redditch



201 - Soho
203 - Soho
241 - Soho
 
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Geeves said:
Todays daily update. 730s highlighted in red. Interesting to note besides 201 all the others at Soho are heading to Northern at some point. Could just be coincidence!

204 + 221 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
211 + 240 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
006 + 011 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
007 + 046 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
015 + 019 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove
017 + 018 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove


215 - Four Oaks - Redditch
216 +218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
222 - Four Oaks - Redditch
012 + 031 - Four Oaks - Redditch
020 + 047 - Four Oaks - Redditch



201 - Soho
203 - Soho
213 - Soho
241 - Soho
242 - Soho
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213 and 242 should be at Allerton now as they moved yesterday https://flic.kr/p/2pYo5d8
 
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Some from today (22/06/24):

211+240 09.31 Redditch - Four Oaks etc
203+216 10.09 Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove etc
204+218 11.03 Bromsgrove - Lichfield TV etc
 
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Also solo Saturday 22 June 2024
Redditch to Four Oaks
323222
323215.
So as it stands 323241 final day in public service with Wmr was Sunday 16th June 2024, Meanwhile 323203, possibly so, final day was, Saturday 22nd June 2024, before transferring to Northern via Wolverton on Monday 24th June 2024, wait and see what Sunday 23rd June 2024, actually brings but be wary of possible cancellations like Sunday 16th June 2024
 
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According to old live rail record.
323216 323203 finish on 5G70 2323 Longbridge to Soho lmd.
Today Saturday 22nd June 2024.
Do possibly 323203 is Today's final day.
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warwickshire said:
Should be only two diagrams on Sundays now.
Which are the x2 3 car diagrams ie Redditch to Lichfield ie two solo 323 only.
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Observations Sunday 23rd June 2024
323215
323222
Both above Solo On Redditch to Lichfield Trent Valley
Only two solo 323s are now out on Sundays, booked to work two diagrams, what a transformation from 323 to 730s, in the past month or so.
However 323211 323240 observed at Birmingham New Street ecs Four Oaks to Soho Lmd.
Whilst ecs 323240 323221 ecs shortly after Soho Lmd to Four Oaks.
Observed at Birmingham New street.
Suspect Monday 24th June 2024 onwards will see a Bromsgrove to Lichfield diagram convert to a 730. Leaving 4 323 diagrams and 6 323 units in service daily
1. Ecs Soho to New Street then on Bromsgrove to Lichfield then Four Oaks stable overnight
2. Four Oaks to Redditch, then end Four Oaks then ecs to Soho lmd.
3. Four oaks to Redditch 3 car
4. Four Oaks to Redditch 3 car
Nb 3. and 4. provided no failures like the week 17 th to 23 June 2024, which was worked by 323215 323222, for 7 consecutive days will be the same week in week out for a shortwhile until 730 replacement.
 
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Here's todays update, not many to report now.

215 + 222 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

204 - Four Oaks - Redditch
218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
221 + 240 - Four Oaks - Redditch

201 - Soho
211 - Soho
 
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Hi there. Collected that the following are 323 diagrams while out today:

09:39 off Lichfield Trent Valley.
09.46, 10.16 and 10.46 off Four Oaks.
 
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Geeves said:
Here's todays update, not many to report now.

215 + 222 - Lichfield TV - Bromsgrove

204 - Four Oaks - Redditch
218 - Four Oaks - Redditch
221 + 240 - Four Oaks - Redditch

201 - Soho
211 - Soho
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Yes I will have to get myself over soon to see the remaining 323s. I suppose with just one more to go to Northern there's no rush to remove any other 323s here as they'll only go to store. Does look like there is one more 730 diagram today too. What about 323216 is that out?
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Apologies Danny I only had a few mins. I'm pretty sure it wasn't out so must be at Soho I reckon!
 
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Geeves said:
Apologies Danny I only had a few mins. I'm pretty sure it wasn't out so must be at Soho I reckon!
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That's OK Geeves. No probs at all. I've followed the 323s for years and always had fond memories of them at Coventry on the half hourly all stations service to Wolves.
 
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Hi there. Collected that the following are 323 diagrams while out today:

09:39 off Lichfield Trent Valley.
09.46, 10.16 and 10.46 off Four Oaks.
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Yes, that's correct, the 0946, 1016 off Four oaks are only solo 323s, providing they don't have issues the same solo 323s will work all week Monday to Sunday on Four oaks to Redditch with 323204 323218 both of them solo all week.
However the 0939 Lichfield Trent Valley as explained above, starts from ecs Soho In the morning before working 2P02 0535 Birmingham New Street to Lichfield Trent Valley. Then ends its day at Four Oaks before berthing overnight, before Out the following day on Four oaks to Redditch, which forms the 1046 from Four oaks as explained above, then ends at Four Oaks, before ecs to Soho
How long the 4 Diagrams remain is unknown.
Suspect next to 730s, will be a Four Oaks to Redditch to get capacity up from 3 to 6 cars.
 
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My updated report
(N)=for NorthernNameLast seen in WM serviceSourceNoteDate left WMTo
STILL WITH WM
323201DuddestonWed 19Jun2024RailUK
323204Selly OakMon 24Jun2024Ray
323211Four OaksSat 22Jun2024RailUK
323214Wylde GreenTue 26Dec2023RailUKAt Wolverton for repairs
323215Gravelly HillThu 20Jun2024RailUK
323216UniversitySat 22Jun2024RailUK
323218 (N)Lichfield CityMon 24Jun2024RayTransfer No 17
323221Northfield. In Centro liveryThu 20Jun2024RailUK
323222RedditchFri 21Jun2024Ray
323240ErdingtonSat 22Jun2024RailUK
TRANSFERRED TO NORTHERN
323202 (N)Butlers LaneFri 12Apr2024RailUKTransfer No 4Mon 15Apr2024Wolverton, then Allerton 19Apr2024
323203 (N)AstonSat 22Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 16Mon 24Jun2024Wolverton
323205 (N)Blake StreetSat 18May2024RailUKTransfer No 7Mon 20May2024Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024
323206 (N)Barnt GreenSat 11May2024RailUKTransfer No 5Mon 13May2024Allerton
323207 (N)BournvilleFri 24May2024RailUKTransfer No 9Tue 28May2024Wolverton then Allerton 31May2024
323208 (N)Five WaysTransferredTransfer No 1Sat 28Oct2023Allerton
323209 (N)Birmingham New StreetThu 09May2024CrosscityTransfer No 6Mon 13May2024Allerton
323210 (N)ShenstoneSat 18May2024RailUKTransfer No 8Mon 20May2024Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024
323212 (N)BromsgroveWed 27Dec2023RailUKTransfer No 2Thu 04Jan2024Wolverton, then Allerton 10Jan2024
323213 (N)Sutton ColdfieldWed 12Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 14Mon 17Jun2024Wolverton, then Allerton 20Jun2024
323217 (N)Chester RoadThu 06Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 11Mon 10Jun2024Wolverton then Allerton 13Jun2024
323219 (N)Kings NortonSun 09Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 12Mon 10Jun2024Wolverton then Allerton 13Jun2024
323220 (N)Lichfield Trent ValleyWed 27Dec2023RailUKTransfer No 3Sat 06Jan2024Wolverton, then Allerton 10Jan2024
323241 (N)Dave Pomroy 323 Fleet Engineer 40 Years ServiceSun 16Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 15Mon 24Jun2024Wolverton
323242 (N)AlvechurchSat 15Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 13Mon 17Jun2024Wolverton, then Allerton 20Jun2024
323243 (N)LongbridgeSun 26May2024RailUKTransfer No 10Tue 28May2024Wolverton then Allerton 31May2024
Mon 24/06/2024 report
Only actual sightings in public service included
Ten of the twelve WM units have been out in service in the last week
… missing were 214 (at Wolverton) and 241 (left WM today)
16 units have now left Soho for good (14 in the North, 2 on the way)
This week: Four 323 diagrams (1 Bromsgrove-Lichfield, 3 Redditch-Four Oaks)
This week: Seven 730 diagrams on Crosscity (5 Bromsgrove-Lichfield, 2 Redditch-Four Oaks)
 
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My updated report
(N)=for NorthernNameLast seen in WM serviceSourceNoteDate left WMTo
STILL WITH WM
323201DuddestonWed 19Jun2024RailUK
323204Selly OakMon 24Jun2024Ray
323211Four OaksSat 22Jun2024RailUK
323214Wylde GreenTue 26Dec2023RailUKAt Wolverton for repairs
323215Gravelly HillThu 20Jun2024RailUK
323216UniversitySat 22Jun2024RailUK
323218 (N)Lichfield CityMon 24Jun2024RayTransfer No 17
323221Northfield. In Centro liveryThu 20Jun2024RailUK
323222RedditchFri 21Jun2024Ray
323240ErdingtonSat 22Jun2024RailUK
TRANSFERRED TO NORTHERN
323202 (N)Butlers LaneFri 12Apr2024RailUKTransfer No 4Mon 15Apr2024Wolverton, then Allerton 19Apr2024
323203 (N)AstonSat 22Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 16Mon 24Jun2024Wolverton
323205 (N)Blake StreetSat 18May2024RailUKTransfer No 7Mon 20May2024Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024
323206 (N)Barnt GreenSat 11May2024RailUKTransfer No 5Mon 13May2024Allerton
323207 (N)BournvilleFri 24May2024RailUKTransfer No 9Tue 28May2024Wolverton then Allerton 31May2024
323208 (N)Five WaysTransferredTransfer No 1Sat 28Oct2023Allerton
323209 (N)Birmingham New StreetThu 09May2024CrosscityTransfer No 6Mon 13May2024Allerton
323210 (N)ShenstoneSat 18May2024RailUKTransfer No 8Mon 20May2024Wolverton then Allerton 23May2024
323212 (N)BromsgroveWed 27Dec2023RailUKTransfer No 2Thu 04Jan2024Wolverton, then Allerton 10Jan2024
323213 (N)Sutton ColdfieldWed 12Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 14Mon 17Jun2024Wolverton, then Allerton 20Jun2024
323217 (N)Chester RoadThu 06Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 11Mon 10Jun2024Wolverton then Allerton 13Jun2024
323219 (N)Kings NortonSun 09Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 12Mon 10Jun2024Wolverton then Allerton 13Jun2024
323220 (N)Lichfield Trent ValleyWed 27Dec2023RailUKTransfer No 3Sat 06Jan2024Wolverton, then Allerton 10Jan2024
323241 (N)Dave Pomroy 323 Fleet Engineer 40 Years ServiceSun 16Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 15Mon 24Jun2024Wolverton
323242 (N)AlvechurchSat 15Jun2024RailUKTransfer No 13Mon 17Jun2024Wolverton, then Allerton 20Jun2024
323243 (N)LongbridgeSun 26May2024RailUKTransfer No 10Tue 28May2024Wolverton then Allerton 31May2024
Mon 24/06/2024 report
Only actual sightings in public service included
Ten of the twelve WM units have been out in service in the last week
… missing were 214 (at Wolverton) and 241 (left WM today)
16 units have now left Soho for good (14 in the North, 2 on the way)
This week: Four 323 diagrams (1 Bromsgrove-Lichfield, 3 Redditch-Four Oaks)
This week: Seven 730 diagrams on Crosscity (5 Bromsgrove-Lichfield, 2 Redditch-Four Oaks)
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And whilst I'll miss the 323s, the air con was certainly useful on tonight's 730!
 
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Cross city sightings today Tuesday 25th June 2024
323211 323216 on the Bromsgrove to Lichfield Trent Valley
Redditch to Four Oaks was
323240 solo
323221 solo
However 323221 failed around 1900pm at Birmingham New street on way to Four Oaks. Wmr staff told me air conditioning in the drivers cab.
The pair was 323215 323222 for Redditch to Four Oaks.
 
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