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The chaos the roadworks caused at 5 lamps was silly last night i think at one point some sixes were 70 plus mins late! When the schools go back its gonna be even worse....
Yes. You know that, I know that, the Council should have known that. I wonder how Hugo and Live Times copes with those delays? Does it come up with "best go home"? Of course when you have a 6.1 linking into a 6.4 then 6X something has to give. Throw in drivers breaks and, well...... Hey, might be better tonight as traffic diverts via Mickleover and Sir Frank Whittle Way. That will then affect other buses
 
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The chaos the roadworks caused at 5 lamps was silly last night i think at one point some sixes were 70 plus mins late! When the schools go back its gonna be even worse....
Would the Sixes be better following the Allestree route rather than the Inner Ring Road?
 

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According to Bustimes, 501 has been transferred to TM Travel. Aren't they jumping the gun a bit? Wouldn't it make more sense to transfer a Mango bus to TM, or back to Trentbarton to transfer a red bus to TM in turn?
 

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According to Bustimes, 501 has been transferred to TM Travel. Aren't they jumping the gun a bit? Wouldn't it make more sense to transfer a Mango bus to TM, or back to Trentbarton to transfer a red bus to TM in turn?
Maybe it is short term. You could say it is in TM Travel livery like 831 and 832, which are now in service up there But Mango livery would be offering a product that is not available there. Hope Kinchbus aren't short of buses soon. ;)
 

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According to Bustimes, 501 has been transferred to TM Travel. Aren't they jumping the gun a bit? Wouldn't it make more sense to transfer a Mango bus to TM, or back to Trentbarton to transfer a red bus to TM in turn?
501 is in Kinchbus livery.
 

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Aw, poor 4 pot Nines Enviro 200MMC 256. Saw it broken down in Lower Kilburn in the rain. Hopefully the passengers got on the next bus. In case anyone thinks it just stopped tracking, I saw it when I drove past,hazards flashing, blind out of service.

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501 is in Kinchbus livery.
I think his point was, why transfer a Kinchbus liveried Solo SR, when you could just as easily send a Mango one or a compliant red one .
 

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According to Bustimes, 501 has been transferred to TM Travel. Aren't they jumping the gun a bit? Wouldn't it make more sense to transfer a Mango bus to TM, or back to Trentbarton to transfer a red bus to TM in turn?
It is entirely possible they inputted the wrong ID into the ticket machine, as 832 is out tracking with TM today.
 

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Yesterday evening I saw a Nines service arrive in Derby via the bus station so presumably it went up onto the inner ring road at St. Marys Bridge then cut through the bus station and via The Morledge to Corporation Street.

Outwards from Derby (I'm guessing here) the only way I can imagine for The Nines and H1 is: From Corporation Street, round the Council House Island, back along The Morledge, possibly cut through the bus station to use the back exit, then round the spiral to Pentagon Island and down Stores Road. H1 will the be back on it's normal route, The Nines will turn left and over Mansfield Road bridge down to The Coach & Horses pub.

Trentbarton's travel alert is very vague with the information it gives considering these diversions will operate until next March. I often see elderly residents from the Chester Green area using The Nines and H1 to get home with their shopping, they won't have any service at all for many months to come.
 

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Yesterday evening I saw a Nines service arrive in Derby via the bus station so presumably it went up onto the inner ring road at St. Marys Bridge then cut through the bus station and via The Morledge to Corporation Street.

Outwards from Derby (I'm guessing here) the only way I can imagine for The Nines and H1 is: From Corporation Street, round the Council House Island, back along The Morledge, possibly cut through the bus station to use the back exit, then round the spiral to Pentagon Island and down Stores Road. H1 will the be back on it's normal route, The Nines will turn left and over Mansfield Road bridge down to The Coach & Horses pub.

Trentbarton's travel alert is very vague with the information it gives considering these diversions will operate until next March. I often see elderly residents from the Chester Green area using The Nines and H1 to get home with their shopping, they won't have any service at all for many months to come.
I think the road is still open outbound, at the moment at least, so just inbound journeys diverting and missing the drop off stop on Derwent Street.

IF outbound was closed, could operate via Victoria Street, Strand,Cathedral Rd turning right onto inner ring road opposite radio Derby. Can then access Mansfield Rd through Chester Green missing no stops. As the travel alert suggests only 2 stops (Derwent Street - the terminus they continue to use is literally a few yards away) in the city centre are missed I assume that is the plan.
 

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According to Bustimes, 501 has been transferred to TM Travel. Aren't they jumping the gun a bit? Wouldn't it make more sense to transfer a Mango bus to TM, or back to Trentbarton to transfer a red bus to TM in turn?
Seems it was a mistrack, tracking today at kinchbus on towns
 

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Seems it was a mistrack, tracking today at kinchbus on towns
Could have been the ticket machine on Versa 832 that tracked as 501.

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I think the road is still open outbound, at the moment at least, so just inbound journeys diverting and missing the drop off stop on Derwent Street.

IF outbound was closed, could operate via Victoria Street, Strand,Cathedral Rd turning right onto inner ring road opposite radio Derby. Can then access Mansfield Rd through Chester Green missing no stops. As the travel alert suggests only 2 stops (Derwent Street - the terminus they continue to use is literally a few yards away) in the city centre are missed I assume that is the plan.
I thought initially it was due to a building being demolished in Phoenix Street, but it is the flood defence works. Yes, you'd think they would follow the U1 route to the Inner Ring Road. Quite a few traffic lights mind, so probably far quicker via Sir Frank Whittle Way missing out a lot of stops
 

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Are both of the Kinchbus DRT Sprinters back in service now? I had been told by a driver when using the service operated by a Solo a few weeks ago, that both were out of action and there were recurring technical problems with them. Is this typical for other DRT minibuses elsewhere?
 

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Are both of the Kinchbus DRT Sprinters back in service now? I had been told by a driver when using the service operated by a Solo a few weeks ago, that both were out of action and there were recurring technical problems with them. Is this typical for other DRT minibuses elsewhere?
I would think they cover a lot of miles 7 days a week.

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I would think they cover a lot of miles 7 days a week.
FLZ shows over 385000km at last MOT. How many miles should one of these Mercedes do, before they give up?
 

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I would think they cover a lot of miles 7 days a week.

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FLZ shows over 385000km at last MOT. How many miles should one of these Mercedes do, before they give up?
I do hope that they procure a decent replacement when their time comes. Purely from a customer rather than a technical perspective, they’re very comfy little buses and the Nottsbus On Demand is a great service.
 

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I do hope that they procure a decent replacement when their time comes. Purely from a customer rather than a technical perspective, they’re very comfy little buses and the Nottsbus On Demand is a great service.
The other one was at 393k km at last MOT. I'll leave others to say at what point that type of bus is considered life expired.
 

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Are both of the Kinchbus DRT Sprinters back in service now? I had been told by a driver when using the service operated by a Solo a few weeks ago, that both were out of action and there were recurring technical problems with them. Is this typical for other DRT minibuses elsewhere?
We haven't had too many issues with our Sprinters on DRT work but it very much depends on how intensively they are being run and how busy the service is. We have found that when deploying on regular services you need to be careful to select the schedules to avoid over-stressing the vehicles. If they are running 7 days a week and they don't have a spare to rotate vehicles then they will be pushing them and then you just have the question about how busy the specific DRT workings they cover are as to how pushed the buses will be.
 

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Hoping for a little extra on the livery of this, could be made to look extremely smart & it’s a rolling advert for Private Hires.
I agree it looks stunning, they seem to be pushing stuff through the paint shop at the moment :)
 

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I agree it looks stunning, they seem to be pushing stuff through the paint shop at the moment :)
Capacity at the various painters....Less need for vehicles in the school holidays. Next back will be 742. Not sure when the Solos will get painted....With them being red, a sister company can borrow them.
 

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Speaking of N&D repaints, I found this.
Solo 453 has been preserved and spent the last couple of years getting completely overhauled and restored into mint old N&D livery. I think this is fantastic, as I believe its the only early Trent Solo left, bar the front of 401.
 

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Solo 453 has been preserved and spent the last couple of years getting completely overhauled and restored into mint old N&D livery. I think this is fantastic, as I believe its the only early Trent Solo left, bar the front of 401.
Yes, a friend of mine owns it. A lot of effort has been put into it and I'm happy to see it making very good progress
 

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Yes, a friend of mine owns it. A lot of effort has been put into it and I'm happy to see it making very good progress
Don't tell Trentbarton, they will put it into service. ;)

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Red Arrow adverts appear everywhere. Even in places where most of the bus users have ENCTS passes
 

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Well I knew it would be a matter of time before 669 ended up terminating at Matlock... Swapped with 491 ;)
 

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Well I knew it would be a matter of time before 669 ended up terminating at Matlock... Swapped with 491 ;)
Odd. 669 seemed to work the 6X from Derby to Belper, then take the 6.1 forward from Belper to Matlock, which 491 had worked up from Derby.
 

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Odd. 669 seemed to work the 6X from Derby to Belper, then take the 6.1 forward from Belper to Matlock, which 491 had worked up from Derby.
491 had its engine bay door open so probably overheated...

While it should be on swift, I can see 669 appearing now on little six with Matlock usually allocating a b7 on there
 
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Any sign of any ex Skylink 20 plated Enviro 200MMCs coming back from Bus and Coach World, other than 152?
 

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We haven't had too many issues with our Sprinters on DRT work but it very much depends on how intensively they are being run and how busy the service is. We have found that when deploying on regular services you need to be careful to select the schedules to avoid over-stressing the vehicles. If they are running 7 days a week and they don't have a spare to rotate vehicles then they will be pushing them and then you just have the question about how busy the specific DRT workings they cover are as to how pushed the buses will be.
Brilliant, thank you. I really enjoy the Nottsbus On Demand service - always find the buses very comfortable and as usual with Kinchbus the drivers pretty consistently friendly. Hopefully it continues.
 

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