Virgin Voyager Servies

[Crossforth]

Hey Guys

Tomorrow morning, I'm taking a trip out to Penrith and coming back Sunday afternoon/ evening.
Tomorrow, I will be getting a service from Cross Gates to Preston which I know will be a Northern 158. From Preston, I will be getting the 1353 Virgin Trains Service to Penrith. This is a service from Birmingham New Street to Edinburgh. I assume this will be a 221?

On the Sunday, I will be getting the 1622 service from Penrith to Preston followed by the 1737 Northern rail service to Cross Gates. I know again that the 1737 will be a 158 but I assume the 1622, as it is an Edinburgh to Birmingham New Street service, will be a 221?

Anyone able to help?

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Hey Guys

Tomorrow morning, I'm taking a trip out to Penrith and coming back Sunday afternoon/ evening.
Tomorrow, I will be getting a service from Cross Gates to Preston which I know will be a Northern 158. From Preston, I will be getting the 1353 Virgin Trains Service to Penrith. This is a service from Birmingham New Street to Edinburgh. I assume this will be a 221?

On the Sunday, I will be getting the 1622 service from Penrith to Preston followed by the 1737 Northern rail service to Cross Gates. I know again that the 1737 will be a 158 but I assume the 1622, as it is an Edinburgh to Birmingham New Street service, will be a 221?

Anyone able to help?

All Scotland-Birmingham and vice versa WCML VT services are scheduled to be 220/221, aside from when it's high summer or the Edinburgh Fringe Festival (which it isn't now!), but if you are lucky, you may get to travel on the new ex-4-car-now-5-car Voyager. On Thursday, stuff was still a bit dodgy from Scotland onto Carlisle etc, so watch out with connections!

 

[MCR247]

Now it's winter I think all BHM-EDB trains are 221s

 

[voyagerdude220]

Yep it all looks right to me. All Birmingham-Scotland Virgin services should be formed of Super Voyagers. I've not seen any short notice substitutions by Pendos myself, but I know it has happened a couple of times.

Enjoy your journey.

 

[Crossforth]

OK, thanks guys,

If I remember, I shall post and let you know what it is

 

[Pumbaa]

Both will be 221.

 

[dk1]

Am i correct in saying Virgin only have (5-car now) 221s? Thought they did due to the need for TASS in the schedule.

 

[387star]

Yes they all do

 

[MCR247]

4 car 221s can tilt anyway

Lets just hope your trains are on time, there was a 1h35 late one into EDB last night I think hock:

 

[Crossforth]

Hey guys

Me service from Preston to Penrith on the Saturday was a doubled up Voyager, 221114 and 221118. I ended up catching 158792 from Cross Gates to Preston. I caught 221114 to Lancaster then jumped off that to get on the front unit, 221118, to Penrith. If you want to see the photos, they are here:

http://yorkshirerail.fotopic.net/c1923763.html

On the way, just after Shap Summit, I passed Shapfell Limeworks which had a shunter inside of some form. Is this shunter under TOPS?

As for the way back, I ended up getting dropped off in Manchester and catching 185112 to Leeds then 158816 back to Cross Gates

Thanks for all your help guys

 

[jopsuk]

4 car 221s can tilt anyway

Not strictly true currently- now Virgin are all five-carriage, the remaining 4-car 221 is with XC who've disabled the tilt on their entire 221 fleet.

 

[222001]

Not strictly true currently- now Virgin are all five-carriage, the remaining 4-car 221 is with XC who've disabled the tilt on their entire 221 fleet.

And removed it. Saves a hell of a lot of weight.

 

[jopsuk]

Isn't much of the tilt mechanism also the stabiliser system for those bogies? To truly save weight they'd get the same bogies as the 220s made and fitted- making them 220s.