Varamis Rail Class 321s & 325s”

[ExRes]

The 325's just replaced van carriages and had no staff let aline sorting.

Close run thing at times though, there were a number of occasions at the PRDC when the shutter doors were closed and a postie was still loitering/working inside, fortunately I think they were all rescued before train departure

 

[172007]

Close run thing at times though, there were a number of occasions at the PRDC when the shutter doors were closed and a postie was still loitering/working inside, fortunately I think they were all rescued before train departure

Rofl

 

[Skimpot flyer]

There was indeed one occasion I know of. The joke among staff was that if the train had left the confines of PRDC, even to the reception sidings, the postie would have faced a conduct code charge of ‘missing from point of duty’

 

[Royston Vasey]

There was indeed one occasion I know of. The joke among staff was that if the train had left the confines of PRDC, even to the reception sidings, the postie would have faced a conduct code charge of ‘missing from point of duty’

"Your postie was delivered to a neighbour"

 

[MotCO]

"Your postie was delivered to a neighbour"

"We were unable to deliver your postie today. Please rearrange delivery"

 

[Royston Vasey]

"We were unable to deliver your postie today. Please rearrange delivery"

Your postie can now be collected from Mossend Delivery Office

 

[TastyMaltesers]

All joking aside, I wonder what the reasoning is behind prioritising the older 321s over the 325s?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

All joking aside, I wonder what the reasoning is behind prioritising the older 321s over the 325s?

325s probably rusty?

 

[fgwrich]

325s probably rusty?

Am I right in thinking that the 325s were due overhauls with neither Royal Mail or DB wanted to pay for putting them through. The 321s, though stored, may be slightly better in this respect.

 

[sad1e]

325s probably rusty?

I would be surprised , they've been stored in the PRDC since withdrawal where they should be safe from the elements. Unless they were already in a state Pre withdrawal.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Am I right in thinking that the 325s were due overhauls with neither Royal Mail or DB wanted to pay for putting them through. The 321s, though stored, may be slightly better in this respect.

You could be right yeah.

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I would be surprised , they've been stored in the PRDC since withdrawal where they should be safe from the elements. Unless they were already in a state Pre withdrawal.

Think they weren't far off to be fair.

 

[D365]

Close run thing at times though, there were a number of occasions at the PRDC when the shutter doors were closed and a postie was still loitering/working inside, fortunately I think they were all rescued before train departure

Each of the cargo payloads was/is fitted with smoke detectors and personnel detectors. If a sensor is triggered, this puts a light on in the active cab.

I would be surprised , they've been stored in the PRDC since withdrawal where they should be safe from the elements. Unless they were already in a state Pre withdrawal.

Think they weren't far off to be fair.

I am by no means a structural engineer, but I've never heard it be said that the 325 bodyshells were in poor condition. Especially when compared to certain examples of Class 319 or Class 150/156.

 

[Jacob Porrett]

RAIL Magazine issue 1071 page 13. Article about Varamis Rail starting up again and getting the correct paperwork to start operations again using their 321 fleet. Interesting it mentions that the majority of their fleet including 321s and 325s will be scrapped and only keeping a handful of units.

 

[sad1e]

RAIL Magazine issue 1071 page 13. Article about Varamis Rail starting up again and getting the correct paperwork to start operations again using their 321 fleet. Interesting it mentions that the majority of their fleet including 321s and 325s will be scrapped and only keeping a handful of units.

The same article was posted up thread When it was released online earlier last month. It seems there is no confirmed source for the rest of the 321's and 325s being scrapped.

Although I think it strange that varamis haven't run another test since their last run , Almost a month ago.

 

[Royston Vasey]

RAIL Magazine issue 1071 page 13. Article about Varamis Rail starting up again and getting the correct paperwork to start operations again using their 321 fleet. Interesting it mentions that the majority of their fleet including 321s and 325s will be scrapped and only keeping a handful of units.

Shambolic to run a £7-figure fundraising specifically to acquire 325s, not run them (or anything else) for a year and then scrap the lot. That's not being sentimental about 325s, that's just baffling management.

But I think with Robin Gisby coming on board (in every sense) earlier this year and now seemingly thoroughly in charge, they're in good hands, but is the market even there?

I'm interested in how much of their debt to Network Rail has been paid off or written off, it was a massive pile.