Spaceflower
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Can I use a northern pass on the 1837 Carlisle - Newcastle operated by SR?
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Yes, the operator changes at Newcastle. Northern staff crew the leg between Carlisle and Newcastle.
Most systems cannot handle two TOCs for one journey.
bb21 most interesting, thank you.
Can you advise whether the operator changes at Carlisle for _all_ scotrail services?
Furthermore, is this an actual change of operator, and not merely staff of one operator crewing anothers train (as per Cleethorpes-Barton, etc)?
I was considering this route for my 'weekender' but was put off by the services marked as Scotrail.
A variation on the same theme: I recently used the Scottish Sun offer to go from Gretna to Glasgow. This HAD to be booked on Scotrail site and was 'Scotrail only'. It would NOT let me book the (only?) Northern Rail service which runs the route from Newcastle - Carlisle - Dumfries - Glasgow.
Sorry if this confuses things...
Sorry if this confuses things...
As above there is NO First ScotRail service from Carlisle to Newcastle, or vice versa. A through train yes, but operated by Northern Ncl-Car. The only thing that stays is the rail vehicle, normally. I have had the misfortune to travel on one of the Glasgow to Newcastle services, from Dumfries, only to be routed into the north facing bay at Carlisle and then have to walk to the south bays to board a Northern monstrosity (sorry Pacer) for a rattle, sore backside, and ear bashing home. I look for the Newcastle/Glasgow, or vice versa, services for a nice, clean, train journey whenever I can. I wonder what the Northern staff make if the 156s with clean windows and interiors? Do they ever tell their managers about the difference? Please let Northern go and the long suffering Northern customers off the hook, what have we done to deserve them?
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