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Julia

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I've inherited a small batch of 86 colour slides from my late uncle, of USA heavy freight - all Santa Fe and Southern Pacific, and taken in around 1995 in the middle of a mountainous nowhere, possibly Colorado? I've scanned the images just in case they are of historic interest, but would anyone want the actual slides themselves? One taster attached... Happy to send them anywhere for just the cost of postage if they are of any interest.

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What a fabulous photo and a credit to your late uncle. Are the physical slides in the UK, or in the USA?
The Santa Fe and Southern Pacfic railroads shared trackage rights south of Denver. The classic US mountain territory (I'm biased, as I'm a fan of the old Denver & Rio Grande Western!) runs due west from there.
My own interest is of the decade prior to your uncle's photos.

@ac6000cw do you know any railfanning group who would be interested in these?
 
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Superb photo - thanks for sharing. That looks like the Cajon Pass in California - possibly Sullivan's Curve...but I may be completely wrong!
 

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@ac6000cw do you know any railfanning group who would be interested in these?
Not personally, but some possible ones to contact might be:

The Southern Pacific Historical & Technical Society - https://sphts.org/

The Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society - https://sfrhms.org/

Some of the NRHS (National Railway Historical Society) relevant area 'Chapters' (branches) - https://nrhs.com/chapters/

Re. the location of the photo in the first post (and the 'middle of a mountainous nowhere' description of the locations):

If you look carefully, there are three tracks curving round - left, middle (with the train) and lower right corner. The lower right track looks like it has concrete sleepers, which usually indicates a heavily trafficked mainline. It also has a pale rock face, long brown grass and scrubby vegetation. This makes me wonder if it's somewhere like Cajon Pass (in Southern California) which carried in 1995 the parallel routes of Santa Fe and Southern Pacific (today it's their successors BNSF and UP) and is one of the busiest rail freight corridors in US. Ignoring the rail lines and the very busy Interstate highway that also uses the pass (plus part of old 'Route 66'), it pretty much looks like the mountainous desert area it actually is.

If I'm correct (and this is a major extrapolation from just a single photo), I suspect the left and middle tracks in the photo are Southern Pacific (and the train is descending the pass and has stopped to cross a train in the opposite direction on the single-track SP route), and the right hand track is one of the two Santa Fe tracks over the pass. There are a few places on the pass where the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific tracks are quite close together, with the SP tracks higher than the Santa Fe tracks.

The other 'mountainous desert' area shared back then by Santa Fe and Southern Pacific is of course Tehachapi Pass and the line east of it to Mojave (a desert 'pit stop' town if ever there was one!).

Those two mountain passes are a huge magnet for railfans from all over world (I've visited both four times!), so it wouldn't be at all surprising for your uncle to have visited them.

Julia - if you're willing to share a few more photos we might be able to get/give you a better idea of the areas in the US they were taken?

Superb photo - thanks for sharing. That looks like the Cajon Pass in California - possibly Sullivan's Curve...but I may be completely wrong!
Our posts crossed - I think you may well be correct re. the Sullivans Curve area (I've never visited Sullivans Curve myself, mostly because it's in an 'off-road' area and I've never felt brave enough when in a rental car on my own!).

This is an image from Google maps of the Sullivans Curve area as it is today - https://maps.app.goo.gl/DtUkESo3UKW67VFw5 - the SP/UP tracks are on the left and the Santa Fe/BNSF tracks are on the right (note in 1995 there was only one Santa Fe track at this location, the other one was added more recently as part of a major BNSF triple-tracking project).


As an aside, the loco in the photo (a GE AC4400CW, according to an SP diesel roster of the time) was only delivered to SP in 1995 which explains its good condition as it's almost brand new! It looks like a loaded coal train behind it, formed of steel-bodied hopper cars, the coal may be heading for export from Los Angeles/Long Beach ports?
 
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This is an image from Google maps of the Sullivans Curve area as it is today - https://maps.app.goo.gl/DtUkESo3UKW67VFw5 - the SP/UP tracks are on the left and the Santa Fe/BNSF tracks are on the right (note in 1995 there was only one Santa Fe track at this location, the other one was added more recently as a major BNSF triple-tracking project).
I think you've got the exact location in the link. Well done! Compare the rocks behind.

Herb Sullivan and Richard Steinheimer were two enthusiast photographers from Los Angeles whose work on The Cajon (and elsewhere in the area) regularly appeared in Trains magazine. Having once lived in LA myself and driven around The Cajon a couple of times (discussed previously on here), I'm afraid my photos were not a patch on theirs. Several of the points in The Cajon have got names after rail enthusiasts whose published work came to prominence.

The publishers of Trains had a substantial collection of negatives from Sullivan, Stein, and friends, but recently seem to be disposing of them to various others, so one suggestion for where to send the original slides here seems to be closing. The longstanding photo archivist at Trains, George Drury, who also produced a number of key reference books, died about 10 years ago, and I presume the impetus to maintain the library, other than electronically, was lost.

 

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Sullivans Curve is the spot, at least for a number of them! I've popped two more in the thread which look unmistakably like the Google picture, and if anyone would like a rather large download (350MB) let me know and I'll DM a Onedrive link! They're with me here in the UK but sending them over to a good home wouldn't be a problem - I'll check with the above organisations. Thankyou all!
 

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I first became aware of all this in 1974, on holiday over in the USA I picked up the September issue of Trains magazine, and there was a whole article on The Cajon by the expert himself, Richard Steinheimer. 50 years on, I did a web search for some information on the area, and was amazed to find that article, on its own, now on line. Here it is:


It's the best description I know of it, and was really what inspired me to go up there in my California years. Note how the opening photo of the steam pilot loco must have been taken about two seconds after the one illustrating the article linked above about the disposal of Sullivan's archive.
 

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Sullivans Curve is the spot, at least for a number of them! I've popped two more in the thread which look unmistakably like the Google picture, and if anyone would like a rather large download (350MB) let me know and I'll DM a Onedrive link! They're with me here in the UK but sending them over to a good home wouldn't be a problem - I'll check with the above organisations. Thankyou all!
Thanks for the extra photos - that shot of the UP double-stack train climbing the pass with the high mountain in the background is wonderful!

The other one, of I think is a manned Santa Fe 'helper' set of SD40-2 locos (banking engines in UK parlance) heading back down to San Bernadino, is a nice period piece, especially now that the use of manned helper locos is pretty rare 'out west' (replaced by radio-controlled 'Distributed Power Unit' locos that usually stay with the train for longer distances). Manned helper sets were also still in use on Tehachapi Pass in 1998 when I first visited it, but had gone when I went back in 2009.

if anyone would like a rather large download (350MB) let me know and I'll DM a Onedrive link!
Yes please!
 

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The publishers of Trains had a substantial collection of negatives from Sullivan, Stein, and friends, but recently seem to be disposing of them to various others, so one suggestion for where to send the original slides here seems to be closing. The longstanding photo archivist at Trains, George Drury, who also produced a number of key reference books, died about 10 years ago, and I presume the impetus to maintain the library, other than electronically, was lost.
The change of ownership/ publisher (from Kalmbach to Firecrown Media) may be a factor as well.

For the OP, the recipients mentioned in the Trains link might be another potential home:
The non-profit Lake States Railway Historical Association was founded in 2006 dedicated to the preservation and dissemination of railroad history through an extensive collection of historic artifacts and materials, socioeconomic data, and industrial archeology relating to American railroads, with emphasis on the western Great Lakes region of the United States. It operates a climate-controlled secure archive storage and research facility in Baraboo. LSRHA’s photographic collections exceed one million images that are continually being cataloged and scanned. Over 110,000 images are currently available for viewing at the Association’s online archive. Downloads and prints of photographs may be purchased for private use at the Lake States website.
 
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