Turbostars/Electrostars

[Helvellyn]

I'm trying to work out the build order of the various subfleets of Turbostars (including Clubmans) and Electrostars. I've put my best estimate below, but I'm hoping others can help correct the list.

Turbostar (Clubman*)-
1997-1998 168001-168005*
1998-1998 058451-058455* (168/0 MS)
1998-1999 170101-170117
1999-1999 170201-170208
1999-2000 170401-170415
1999-2000 170501-170523
2000-2000 170630-170639
2000-2000 168106-168113*
2000-2000 170301-170308
2000-2001 170416-170424
2001-2001 170470-170471
2001-2001 170309-170309* (Built as 170399)
2001-2001 055101-055110* (170/1 MS)
2002-2002 058461-058463* (168/1 MS)
2002-2002 058756-058757* (168/1 MSL)
2002-2002 170270-170273
2002-2002 170397-170398
2003-2003 168214-168217*
2003-2003 171721-171726
2003-2003 171730-1717300 (Built as 170392)
2003-2005 170425-170434
2004-2004 171801-171806
2004-2004 170393-170396
2004-2004 168218-168219*
2004-2005 170450-170461
2004-2005 170472-170478
2005-2005 171727-171729
2006-2006 058365-058367* (168/2 MSL)
2006-2006 058465-058467* (168/2 MS)
2010-2010 172001-172008
2011-2011 172101-172104
2011-2011 172211-172222
2011-2011 172331-172345

Electrostar (Capitalstar*)
1999-2001 357001-357046
1999-2001 375601-375630
2001-2002 357201-357228
2001-2002 375301-375310
2001-2002 377301-377328 (Built as 375311-375338)
2001-2002 375701-375715
2002-2003 377101-377109
2002-2003 377110-377119
2003-2003 377120-377139
2003-2003 377140-377164
2003-2004 377201-377215
2003-2004 375901-375927
2004-2004 375801-375830
2004-2005 377401-377475
2004-2005 376001-376036
2008-2009 377501-377523
2008-2009 378001-378024*
2009-2010 378135-378154*
2010-2010 038201-038224* (TSO inserted into 378/0, which then reclassified 378/2)
2010-2011 379001-379030
2010-2011 378225-378234*
2011-2011 378255-378257*
2012-2013 377601-377634
2012-2013 377701-377708
2014-2015 387101-387129
2014-2015 038401-038457* (MSO inserted into 378 fleet)
2015-2015 387201-387227
2017-2017 387301-3873xx

 

[SpacePhoenix]

What's the difference between a "clubmans" Turbostar and a "normal" one?

btw you might want to include Capitalstars in your list as they're basically a variant of Electrostars

 

[RPM]

What's the difference between a "clubmans" Turbostar and a "normal" one?

Essentially nothing except that those units designated 168 are not electrically compatible with the 170s. They can couple physically in an emergency (both types have BSI couplers) but the electrical boxes have to be retracted.

The 168/0s feature a different cab design but this is simply because the finalised Turbostar cab design was not ready for production in time for the initial Chiltern order. The 168/0s differ in many minor respects from the later 168s, but (other than the cab) the differences are not really any more pronounced than the differences between early and late build 170s.

 

[D365]

Where's the Class 379 and the ongoing Class 387 build/deliveries? Additionally you've missed off the Class 172 Turbostar of 2010-2011.

2010-2011, 379001-379030 GA
2014-2015, 387101-387129 SN/TL (GW)
2015, 387201-387227 SN/GX
[2017 for Class 387/3 GW]

2010, 172001-172008 LO
2011, 172101-172104 CH
2011, 172211-172222 LM
2011, 172331-172345 LM

 

[GatwickDepress]

Hard to believe the 376s are only ten years old. They feel older somehow.

 

[Techniquest]

Hard to believe the 376s are only ten years old. They feel older somehow.

I still remember when they were brand new, and I think it was RAIL doing them at the time, the new train review and how it was done in hardly any time.

Memories of standing on platform 6 (I think!) at London Bridge and spotting away, and I remember the best bit of 376s was that the last two numbers of the coach numbers corresponded with the unit ID. That might sound strange, but when it's evening peak time and you're struggling to ID the 375s and 465s because their coach numbering doesn't tally with unit IDs and you've got about 5 of them to note at the same time, it made things so much easier!

I don't know what they're doing to them when they wash them, but last time I was down there plenty of 376s had coach numbers which weren't at all clear, rather washed out. Not too helpful on a white background!

376s don't feel that old yet to me, maybe they will eventually but I'll always have those memories

Anyway, this is getting a tad off-topic! Getting back to it, was it really 1997 when 168s first strolled onto the scene? I never realised they're 18 years old this year! Same with 170s, I keep forgetting how old they're getting. 15-16 years of age for my local fleet of them are this year, good grief!

 

[D365]

Anyway, this is getting a tad off-topic! Getting back to it, was it really 1997 when 168s first strolled onto the scene? I never realised they're 18 years old this year! Same with 170s, I keep forgetting how old they're getting. 15-16 years of age for my local fleet of them are this year, good grief!

Aye, they're just about my age now and I'm struggling to realise it myself

 

[pompeyfan]

Are you not forgetting the 377/2 dual voltage stock?

 

[Techniquest]

Anyway, this is getting a tad off-topic! Getting back to it, was it really 1997 when 168s first strolled onto the scene? I never realised they're 18 years old this year! Same with 170s, I keep forgetting how old they're getting. 15-16 years of age for my local fleet of them are this year, good grief!

Aye, they're just about my age now and I'm struggling to realise it myself

You youngsters have it easy these days! I'm twice the age of 170501...

 

[Helvellyn]

Updated with missing units.