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(TRIVIA) Busy stations which hardly anybody walks to

YorksLad12

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New Pudsey? It was designed as a parkway-style station before the term became popular, and is close to a major road junction (which is being remodelled). It might be easier for cyclists to get to, as a result, but I suspect most people drive there rather than walk or even catch the bus, even though there is some housing close by.
 
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What about Ryde Pier Head?

Apparently you can walk the length of the pier, but the number of people who choose to do that and then catch the train back must surely be absolutely dwarfed by the number of people arriving from Portsmouth?
 

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Looking abroad, Berlin Westkreuz is a very busy station that is pretty much only used by passengers for changing trains.

They've been discussing the construction of a second entrance for Charlottenburg residents for over 20 years now, but until that happens the station's only entrance (near Halenseestraße) is not in a helpful location.
 

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Hooton station (730k entrances & exits/year + 94k interchanges) is in the middle of nowhere. It's about a mile down a poorly lit road to the village of Willaston and a little less, maybe 1 km, to Hooton itself. The bus service is poor, hourly SSuX, with none at all in the evenings or at weekends.

As a result, hardly anybody goes there by foot. Almost all passengers use the cheap & secure £1.50/day car park or use the station to interchange between Chester and Ellesmere Port services. Nevertheless Hooton attracts far greater passenger numbers than any of the three stations on the Ellesmere Port branch, all of which are in densely populated areas. Fare anomalies and lack of secure parking are major contributory factors. Hooton also outperforms Eastham Rake (371k), the next station up the line, which is in a populated area.

There must be many similarly busy stations outside London where hardly anybody arrives by Shanks Pony. Which are the most striking examples? "Parkways" are obvious contenders.

I’ll be a bit flippant and suggest two near to me - Hitchin and Stevenage.

The first is simply because it seems to be a very lazy town where not many people walk period.

In the case of Stevenage there’s surprisingly little housing in the immediate vicinity of the station, but good road access, plus a network of cycle paths.
 

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It doesn’t invalidate your point in any way, but I’d hardly say Hooton was in the middle of nowhere! But these things are relative, I suppose.
There is also a large housing estate going up (when the developer isn't going bust).

I have also used it by foot as the start and finish of the Wirral Way.

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What about Ryde Pier Head?

Apparently you can walk the length of the pier, but the number of people who choose to do that and then catch the train back must surely be absolutely dwarfed by the number of people arriving from Portsmouth?
It's a long pier, particularly in the wind and the rain.
 

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St Erth since the St Ives Park and Ride moved from Lelant Saltings add the drivers to those changing and it is quite a busy station.
 
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Hitchin and Stevenage.
One time I walked from Lister hospital to Stevenage, got the train to Hitchin and then walked from there to where I was staying. I was surprised by the number of people who decanted at Hitchin considering it was past midnight, maybe like 40 or 50 people got off a strangely busy train. But perhaps the London commuter crowd are a bit different to the locals.

Back on topic, I'd like to submit Salhouse as an idea. No bus service and there isn't a pavement against the country lane that connects to the village of Salhouse. But nonetheless, there is a small crowd from the surrounding areas that get lifts to the somewhat large carpark and commute up to the coast or even down into Norwich. I did it myself for a short while. I often fantasise about some glorious world where some planner figures out that if they diverted merely one bus out from the northern suburbs of Norwich to actually serve the village and then treated the station to the privilege of having a pavement it has the potential to become quite a useful interchange.

Also on the same line check out Gunton: absolute middle of nowhere, no bus, 6 space carpark, surrounding parishes barely make a population of 3,000 - yet the station serves around 36k a steady upwards climb, about 80 a day.
 

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If we're looking abroad, Bengbu in China. Yes, a populous city, but inconsequential in Chinese terms and serves a role on the Shanghai-Beijing line like Crewe does on the WCML. Also, most local passengers will be arriving by taxi rather than walking.
 

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Yeovil Junction is another one where walking isn't a good option. A mile and a half from the town on a road without footways or lighting isn't great in daylight and is outright dangerous after dark.
 

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I am surprised no-one has mentioned Gatwick Airport to which no-one walks too. Everyone arrives by public transport, taxi or car. Does anyone walk to/from the station along the busy A23 road?

When I worked in the area (but not at the airport) I walked in from Balcombe Road, which has a footpath entrance to the airport estate.

There are several walking routes from the station, via the south terminal complex, to Horley - one of which takes you through a tranquil park with a lake and resident geese, within five minutes of leaving the airport.

I believe the A23 has a walking and cycling path, down towards Manor Royal and Crawley, but I was never tempted to try that one.

But yes - those of us who walked to Gatwick station were in a minority, and regarded as eccentric types!
 

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Yeah, probably near 100% of customers reach the Heathrow stations on foot having alighted from an aircraft.
Since the majority of stations that used to let vehicles in no longer do, the number of people that haven’t walked (across the pavement) to any station by that measure is near zero (interchange figures excepted).
 

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Birmingham International. It's got three or four different crowds using it: those who want the airport, those who want the NEC (and it's various other attractions) and those using it as a park and ride from Birmingham and London. 5 million journeys, an absolutely minuscule percentage of those people will walk to the station.
 

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Yeah, probably near 100% of customers reach the Heathrow stations on foot having alighted from an aircraft.

What you can't do is walk from outside the airport to Heathrow Central - there is no pedestrian route provided. You can walk to T4 and T5 though.

Fair assessment.


I am surprised no-one has mentioned Gatwick Airport to which no-one walks too. Everyone arrives by public transport, taxi or car. Does anyone walk to/from the station along the busy A23 road?

I‘ve used it by walking, several times, and with no planes involved. Admittedly on air industry related business (albeit not at the airport).

In the case of Stevenage there’s surprisingly little housing in the immediate vicinity of the station, but good road access, plus a network of cycle paths.

similarly used that by walking a few times to go to the town centre and football.
 

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New Pudsey? It was designed as a parkway-style station before the term became popular, and is close to a major road junction (which is being remodelled). It might be easier for cyclists to get to, as a result, but I suspect most people drive there rather than walk or even catch the bus, even though there is some housing close by.
For those on foot, New Pudsey station essentially serves Farsley, not Pudsey. It's pretty much unwalkable from Pudsey due to the distance, but it's right on the edge of Farsley, a popular Leeds suburb. I've departed on foot and seen large numbers of other people do the same.
 

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I‘ve used it by walking, several times, and with no planes involved. Admittedly on air industry related business (albeit not at the airport).

I’ve arrived and left Gatwick Airport station by bike, not an experience I’d like to repeat, it was a pretty unpleasant (and, frankly, unsafe) experience.

similarly used that by walking a few times to go to the town centre and football.

ISTR reading somewhere that Stevenage is one of the most car-oriented towns in the country. It wasn’t really designed thus, but certainly seems to be now, and more recent expansions all the more so.
 

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For those on foot, New Pudsey station essentially serves Farsley, not Pudsey. It's pretty much unwalkable from Pudsey due to the distance, but it's right on the edge of Farsley, a popular Leeds suburb. I've departed on foot and seen large numbers of other people do the same.

Ironically New Pudsey replaced Stanningley for Farsley which was probably the intermediate station with the greatest number of pedestrian entries & exits on the entire Leeds Central - Bradford Exchange line.

Pudsey itself was also served by stations at Greenside and Lowtown on a loop line (which I did by accident as a kid).
 

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Yeovil Junction is another one where walking isn't a good option. A mile and a half from the town on a road without footways or lighting isn't great in daylight and is outright dangerous after dark.
Castle Cary similar. There is a pavement about 18" wide alongside a long stretch of unlit A road, you could never let children go along there to/from school in winter. No houses around. Big car park.
 

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similarly used that by walking a few times to go to the town centre and football.
Off-topic, but does the cinema (etc) car park still have more restrictions when Stevenage are playing at home? Haven't used that car park since we got stung by this a few years ago - from memory it was 3 hours free parking normally but only an hour on home match days. How any non-football fan (hello!) especially one from out the area (hello hello!) could possibly know when the local team are playing at home, I do not know!
 

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Leuchars station is neither great nor awful for the town of the same name (or Guardbridge), but the vast majority of its passengers will be proceeding by bus, taxi, or car to St Andrews or elsewhere in NE Fife.
 

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Off-topic, but does the cinema (etc) car park still have more restrictions when Stevenage are playing at home? Haven't used that car park since we got stung by this a few years ago - from memory it was 3 hours free parking normally but only an hour on home match days. How any non-football fan (hello!) especially one from out the area (hello hello!) could possibly know when the local team are playing at home, I do not know!

Don’t know about the car park by the station, but the retail park by the stadium has restrictions. There are signs up at the entrance of the latter car park explaining and on various posts throughout the car park.
 

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Surprised Tiverton Parkway hasn't been mentioned. You can walk there from Sampford Peverell (the modern station is on the former site of the old village station), but I can't see many other walkable options - Uffculme and Willand look far from straightforward. Since the station has over 500,000 users per year currently, and as it acts as a railhead for North, West and Mid-Devon, as well as North Cornwall, I'd hazard a guess that a very small proportion actually walk there.
 

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Surprised Tiverton Parkway hasn't been mentioned. You can walk there from Sampford Peverell (the modern station is on the former site of the old village station), but I can't see many other walkable options - Uffculme and Willand look far from straightforward. Since the station has over 500,000 users per year currently, and as it acts as a railhead for North, West and Mid-Devon, as well as North Cornwall, I'd hazard a guess that a very small proportion actually walk there.

I walked to/from it once whilst staying at the Travelodge on the adjacent M5 junction. ISTR it was necessary to do a quite awkward walk.
 

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Metrocentre. I'm gonna hazard that, much like Meadowhall, almost every passenger arrived by public transport, with the odd one using it as a park and ride for Newcastle.
 

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Surprised Tiverton Parkway hasn't been mentioned. You can walk there from Sampford Peverell (the modern station is on the former site of the old village station), but I can't see many other walkable options - Uffculme and Willand look far from straightforward. Since the station has over 500,000 users per year currently, and as it acts as a railhead for North, West and Mid-Devon, as well as North Cornwall, I'd hazard a guess that a very small proportion actually walk there.
I met a business from right down towards Penzance where staff actually railheaded to Tivvy Parkway when going to London, they said it was notably quicker, better choice of trains, and the last Penzance train from Paddington is 1800, which interrupted some afternoon business meetings, where the last to Tivvy was 3 hours later.
 

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I believe the A23 has a walking and cycling path, down towards Manor Royal and Crawley, but I was never tempted to try that one.

But yes - those of us who walked to Gatwick station were in a minority, and regarded as eccentric types!
It does, and it's quite a pleasant walk, I used it for many years when working at Crawley Industrial Estate. Hardly "tranquil" though, right underneath the main flight path.

There are useful paths in all directions from Gatwick, just poorly signposted. The one to Horley is actually quite well used.

Can't argue with your last sentence though!
 

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I’ll be a bit flippant and suggest two near to me - Hitchin and Stevenage.

The first is simply because it seems to be a very lazy town where not many people walk period.

In the case of Stevenage there’s surprisingly little housing in the immediate vicinity of the station, but good road access, plus a network of cycle paths.
Both of these have lots of foot traffic.

Hitchin has lots of students walking to and from North Hertfordshire College, which is close to the station.


Our Hitchin Campus is only a five-minute walk from the train station

What Stevenage has near the station are a town centre, a retail park and an industrial estate. All of them generate walking traffic. Stevenage is unusual in that it still has a thriving industrial estate, which lies between the railway and the A1(M), see here:

https://www.investinstevenage.co.uk/why-stevenage/location-and-digital-connectivity/

Stevenage as a business destination is strategically located and provides you with a highly attractive and accessible location to London, Cambridge and Oxford, the rest of the UK, Europe and the world.

Its excellent transport infrastructure provides you with global connectivity.
 

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What Stevenage has near the station are a town centre, a retail park and an industrial estate. All of them generate walking traffic. Stevenage is unusual in that it still has a thriving industrial estate, which lies between the railway and the A1(M), see here:
When the post war New Towns were being developed provision of rail services was well down the priority list (they were supposed to be self contained, not commuter towns). Thus Stevenage had only the old station serving the original settlement until the seventies, Basildon didn't have a station at all until the seventies, and the stations at Hemel Hempstead and Harlow were located well away from both the town centres and most residential development.
 

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Yeovil Junction is another one where walking isn't a good option. A mile and a half from the town on a road without footways or lighting isn't great in daylight and is outright dangerous after dark.
I have walked there before when interchanging between Yeovil Pen Mill and Yeovil Junction, partly using footpaths and partly using country lanes - it was quite scenic but not very well-signed and not suitable for use after dark.
Surprised Tiverton Parkway hasn't been mentioned. You can walk there from Sampford Peverell (the modern station is on the former site of the old village station), but I can't see many other walkable options - Uffculme and Willand look far from straightforward. Since the station has over 500,000 users per year currently, and as it acts as a railhead for North, West and Mid-Devon, as well as North Cornwall, I'd hazard a guess that a very small proportion actually walk there.
I have also walked from this station, to access the Grand Western Canal and walk to Tiverton, but I agree this is likely to be a minority pursuit.
 

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and another on the same line would be Buckshaw Parkway.
Whilst I agree that no doubt the majority of passengers will probably drive to/from the Station for their trains, I'd be surprised if there isn't at least a small proportion who walk there given it's proximity to the housing estate built close to the Station.
 

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