The 197s struggle a bit in autumn but the rest of the time they are perfectly capable of completing a round trip in the scheduled two hours and 15 minutes.
Your rose tinted answers sound completely ignorant.
Do we really want this thread closed down again? Please no.
Hear hear. It's ok for people to acknowledge the relative improvement over the past few months just as it's fine for others to be frustrated with reliabilty of late. Those views are not mutually exclusive and people are entitled to either or opinion (or both). Keep it civil
There has been at least 1 197 covering a diagram on a couple of days last week too. Whats new is the 230s now seem to be failing on days where its not even too hot or too cold or too pollen-y. Today was quite hot, granted, but its been a mild week.
Probably explains why one caught fire today then
My dad was on one and evacuated off it, smoke bellowing out. Around 3pm
Despite popular belief, there can be smoke without fire.
Either way. I'm not sure it was supposed to do so.
The air conditioning units are known for condensation leaking into the saloon unfortunately . Regarding the side seats there are various components underneath them the fitters check every day before and after service, the locks are a bit temperamental and the seat unit itself is spring loaded so pop open from time to time if theyre not properly latched over some lively track. Agreed it should have been closed as soon as noticed though.
Obviously not great but cant have been too serious. Presumably deemed to not be a fire as it ran empty to Wrexham then ran empty back to Birkenhead depot. I dont know any further details however!
'Thermal event'
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To be fair, i don't think the Wrexham Bidston user group are particularly helping in anyway. Im sure TfW know theyre having issues and will be coming up with solutions of their own accord - afterall, delays and cancellations cost them momey. The WBRUA come across as a bunch of busy bodies with too much time on their hands from my personal view point.Wrexham borderlines users association reports poor service with cancellations increasing.
"Our analysis of service cancellations since April shows them at an unacceptable level and the trend is getting worse. ....
Of the trains that run, one in five or more are regularly running late ( based on TfW's on-time to 3 metric) This year's leaf-fall season is imminent, and likely to worsen the situation for passengers. Publicly available data shows that performance on the Wrexham-Bidston line continues to be significantly inferior to comparable TfW routes in South East Wales as well as that of the nearby Merseyrail network.
The WBRUA's Chairman has, on 24 September, written to James Price, CEO of TfW asking that TfW visibly prioritise and resolve the ongoing performance issues with its Wrexham-Bidston service and actively publicise what it is doing. As with the early morning service the WBRUA fought for, we will continue to lobby for a better service that the line and its users expect and deserve."
Wrexham Bidston Rail Users' Association
Our analysis of service cancellations since April shows them at an unacceptable level and the trend is getting worse. Of the trains that run, one in five or more are regularly running late ( based...
All they have done is highlight facts. Every day users are suffering.
This week has seen a return to 2 230 diagrams anyway with a 197 booked on the other.
Not sure if it is TFW staff or Stadler staff service the 230s at Birkenhead? But to have just 2 out of 5:units serviceable is not ideal, as the recent upgrades seemed to show improvements.
A return to hourly with two units would be a disaster. 120 minutes is not enough to do a round trip.
Can't help but agree. I think more 197s will become a bit of a sticking plaster, but as you say these are a stretched resource as it is
Are the cancellation % figures really any worse than those in South East Wales?
