Transdev Blazefield

[SCH117X]

Enviro 400EV 2217 made it to Skipton yesterday filling in for Scania 2104 on one afternoon 59 working

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

Enviro 400EV 2217 made it to Skipton yesterday filling in for Scania 2104 on one afternoon 59 working

And 2104 was itself an unusual vehicle for the route as 2105 is, for some reason, effectively the dedicated bus for the service.

 

[Dwarfer1979]

There has been numerous E200 MMC fires over the last couple of years, I wonder what makes them so susceptible to going up in flames?

It is the best selling model of recent years so it is the most common & widespread vehicle and even if it was proportional it would make up the majority but once you remove a specific operator who did have an issue and favoured MMCs generally it probably isn't as frequent generally as it seems. As emission standards have tightened bus engines have had to run at higher temperatures to make the exhaust after treatment work which probably increases the risk on all newer models compared to the past. Also vehicles with smaller engines, as some E200MMCs will have, are probably working harder and so again running at higher temperatures than models with larger engines working less hard (but use more fuel doing it).

 

[WYIS]

Does anybody have a picture of an article showing 509 YX69 NTM on fire as according to West Yorkshire Information Service (WYIS), it has been burnt down but I surprisingly didnt find any articles about it

We were sent pictures of 509 with rear end fire damage by a correspondent, who said the fire happened at Intack depot, which is maybe why it hasn’t been reported elsewhere.

 

[M60lad]

Depending how bad the damage is to 509 will anything replace it in the long term or has Blackburn got enough vehicles to cover? I know it seems at the moment one of the newer non branded MMC200s is replacing it.

 

[YorkRailFan]

B7RLE 1771 has been withdrawn and decommishioned pending scrap.

 

[theblackwatch]

B7RLE 1771 has been withdrawn and decommishioned pending scrap.

It is now located at Starbeck.

 

[YorkRailFan]

It is now located at Starbeck.

It's being decommishioned in Starbeck before scrapping.

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Harrogate service changes from 19th July:

We're making some changes to our buses from 19 July to better reflect customer travel patterns and to improve punctuality for you.

The 36 Harrogate to Leeds or Ripon
There will be some changes to our timetable every day to improve punctuality.

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The 1 Harrogate - Knaresborough
There will be some changes to our timetable Monday to Saturday.

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The 2 Harrogate - Bilton
There will be some minor changes to our timetable.

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The 4 Harrogate - King Edwin Park
The 4 service is funded by a fixed payment from the developer of King Edwin Park through North Yorkshire Council.

At the current level of service and usage, this funding is expected to run out within the next few months. To help extend the funding and provide an opportunity for the service to become financially sustainable, we have agreed with North Yorkshire Council to change the frequency to every two hours.

We will also amend the route to operate along Burley Bank Road, serving Pinemoor Caravan Park and Harrogate West Business Park.

Download your new timetable.

The 6 Harrogate - Pannal Ash and Beckwith Knowle
Buses will change to run every 40 minutes during off peak time, but will continue to run every 20 minutes during rush hours.

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The 7 Harrogate - Wetherby - Leeds
There will be changes to our timetables daily to improve punctuality. On weekdays, there will be an additional journey from Harrogate to Boston Spa and extra trips on Saturday mornings between Bramham and Harrogate to ensure all our customers can travel comfortably.

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The 21 Knaresborough - Boroughbridge
The fast trips will now operate via Staveley.

Download your new timetable.

We're here to help if you have any questions. Just get in touch with our friendly customer services team.

Changes to our buses in Harrogate from 19 July

www.transdevbus.co.uk

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E400 2837 has transferred from Keighley to Idle on loan for school services, presumably covering for B9TL 2410.

 

[YorkRailFan]

E400 2837 has transferred from Keighley to Idle on loan for school services, presumably covering for B9TL 2410.

2837 is now back in Keighley as 2410 is back in service today.

 

[SCH117X]

One nice feature in the current Transdev Go app I have not seen mentioned is that tickets are seemingly saved on the mobile. The app does come up with an error message or two without a data/wifi connection but it will still show the tickets you have and open them

 

[borage]

Good news (for those who think the current app and/or website are worse than the previous ones) – they're returning, according to a press release from Passenger (the previous, 2017–24, supplier):

Transdev Blazefield Chooses Passenger, a Masabi company, to Power Customer-Facing Digital Services - Passenger

Transdev Blazefield returns to Passenger, a Masabi company, to power digital ticketing and journey information across its North of England bus network following a period with an alternative supplier.

passenger.tech

[...]

The migration process is already underway, with teams from both Passenger and Transdev Blazefield working closely to ensure a seamless transition back to the platform. Once complete, Passenger will again support the operator’s apps, websites and eCommerce infrastructure, helping customers access trusted journey information and digital ticketing across the network.

“Our history with Transdev Blazefield is filled with milestone achievements that measure against the best in the UK local transport industry, and we have always deeply valued their product-led, customer-focused approach,” said Tom Quay, Advisor at Masabi. “Welcoming them back to Passenger in 2026 is an important moment for our team, one that reinforces the value of a reliable SaaS platform which can drive customer growth and maintain passenger trust. Across the whole team, we are delighted to be working together again.”

“Passenger played an important part in the growth of our digital customer offering, and we are pleased to be returning to their platform,” said Henri Rohard, Managing Director at Transdev Blazefield. “Our customers expect accurate, easy-to-access information and simple digital ticketing as part of their everyday journeys and, as we continue to assess, monitor and invest in reliable, customer-focused services across our network, returning to Passenger gives us the proven functionality, flexibility and support we need to keep improving the digital experience for our customers.”

 

[Stan Drews]

Good news (for those who think the current app and/or website are worse than the previous ones) – they're returning, according to a press release from Passenger (the previous, 2017–24, supplier):

Transdev Blazefield Chooses Passenger, a Masabi company, to Power Customer-Facing Digital Services - Passenger

Transdev Blazefield returns to Passenger, a Masabi company, to power digital ticketing and journey information across its North of England bus network following a period with an alternative supplier.

passenger.tech

Their decision to move to another app provider was probably one of the worst business decisions that Transdev have taken.

 

[Nikkos1977]

Great news! The apps delivered by Passenger (the old Supplier) are, in my opinion, far more user friendly and I gave up using the new Transdev app some time ago. I say in my opinion as I have an Uncle who will argue with anyone that the current app is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

 

[Deerfold]

Great news! The apps delivered by Passenger (the old Supplier) are, in my opinion, far more user friendly and I gave up using the new Transdev app some time ago. I say in my opinion as I have an Uncle who will argue with anyone that the current app is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

Odd, it's recently improved a little - if you've an active ticket you can access with 1 click after opening the app, instead of 4.

I don't know if that was a last attempt to show Transdev they could improve their app.

 

[Russel]

Used the 843 this evening from Scarborough into York, the B9s really need replacing, or at least tidying up, it was really scruffy inside, certainly jarring when I look back to how Coastliner vehicles used to be presented.

 

[Andyh82]

Used the 843 this evening from Scarborough into York, the B9s really need replacing, or at least tidying up, it was really scruffy inside, certainly jarring when I look back to how Coastliner vehicles used to be presented.

A member called Russel made a similar comment on the last page and a discussion followed, I don’t think anything has changed since then

Transdev Blazefield

What seems to be another side-effect of not having local knowledge of the area. Under Service Updates on the Harrogate website there is a note that "The Royal Parade is taking place on 21st & 22nd May!", suggesting a Royal visit. Looking at the stops missing info, I rather suspect this refers to...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Russel]

A member called Russel made a similar comment on the last page and a discussion followed, I don’t think anything has changed since then

Transdev Blazefield

What seems to be another side-effect of not having local knowledge of the area. Under Service Updates on the Harrogate website there is a note that "The Royal Parade is taking place on 21st & 22nd May!", suggesting a Royal visit. Looking at the stops missing info, I rather suspect this refers to...

www.railforums.co.uk

Yeah okay...

But thread bear and stained seating isn't a good look.

 

[YorkRailFan]

Yeah okay...

But thread bear and stained seating isn't a good look.

The seating isn't any better on the B5s to be honest. The headrests are worn out and stained as well.

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B7RLE 1860 has transferred from Flyer to Blackburn.

 

[Russel]

The seating isn't any better on the B5s to be honest. The headrests are worn out and stained as well.

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B7RLE 1860 has transferred from Flyer to Blackburn.

Yeah now I've used both B5s and B9s it's pretty poor to see...

Even Arriva seem to be turning a corner and leaving Transdev behind in this instance with presentation.

 

[markymark2000]

Their decision to move to another app provider was probably one of the worst business decisions that Transdev have taken.

I'm not sure. RDM/Bushub had potential to massively improve their offering with a big passionate operator onboard (their customers up until Transdev were mostly smaller independents who probably weren't a big enough customer and Diamond/Rotala who care not a single bit for passengers and user friendliness of their website). There are also a lot of Bushub/RDM features which don't seem to get anywhere near enough usage from operators. Things such as being able to see different prices for the same ticket. Adult and child fares displayed side by side. Good placement of download timetable buttons etc.

Passenger are now very much at the same stage that Ticketer got to a few years ago. They got too many people onboard, grew too big too quickly, and don't seem to care about fixing long standing issues, just introducing new bolt-on features to charge to operators. Not just that, but rather than making sites and systems more passenger friendly, they have worked hand in hand with operators to start and encourage data mining which for me is a big no no (passengers should be free to view, query and dispute contactless journeys without being forced to make accounts). Both platforms have things which are really good, and really poor and so while RDM do generally offer a poorer product, very much like ticket machines with the Ticketer Vs Transmach situation, you are going for the least worst rather than the best.

Great news! The apps delivered by Passenger (the old Supplier) are, in my opinion, far more user friendly and I gave up using the new Transdev app some time ago. I say in my opinion as I have an Uncle who will argue with anyone that the current app is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

Both platforms have their pros and cons. RDM the sites are quite different between operators even if they have a core functionality. Take White Bus Surrey website for example and compare it to Diamond/Rotala and compare them both to Transdev, they are worlds apart. If someone made a 'best of' RDM/Bushub site, Bushub would be a strong competitor to Passenger.

 

[John HG1]

I'm not sure. RDM/Bushub had potential to massively improve their offering with a big passionate operator onboard (their customers up until Transdev were mostly smaller independents who probably weren't a big enough customer and Diamond/Rotala who care not a single bit for passengers and user friendliness of their website). There are also a lot of Bushub/RDM features which don't seem to get anywhere near enough usage from operators. Things such as being able to see different prices for the same ticket. Adult and child fares displayed side by side. Good placement of download timetable buttons etc.
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The problem I have with most apps is that there are no clear instructions. Regular users may get used to it over time but occasional ones (or me!) struggle. With the current TransdevGo, finding times for a particular stop, a useful feature, is not easy to navigate and the icons don't always convey their purpose clearly. Perhaps I'm not intuitive enough.

 

[9143180]

Used the 843 this evening from Scarborough into York, the B9s really need replacing, or at least tidying up, it was really scruffy inside, certainly jarring when I look back to how Coastliner vehicles used to be presented.

This conundrum has been discussed on here before. Not only do they looking untidy, they are also unreliable, because someone decided that a 4cl 5ltr engine would be sufficient to pull a decker on such a demanding route.

The obvious choice would be the Volvo B8 7.7 EvoSeti, but the tri-axle set up brings a whole world of considerations. You can pick up a E400 or Ultroliner with a Cummins 6.7 but many operators have found the ADL and Wright offerings to be unappealing.
Cummins are bringing out a 7.2 next year, it’s worth keeping an eye on

 

[D6130]

The problem I have with most apps is that there are no clear instructions. Regular users may get used to it over time but occasional ones (or me!) struggle. With the current TransdevGo, finding times for a particular stop, a useful feature, is not easy to navigate and the icons don't always convey their purpose clearly. Perhaps I'm not intuitive enough.

I find Bustimes.org much easier to use....and they cover the whole country.

 

[John HG1]

I find Bustimes.org much easier to use....and they cover the whole country.

Yes, so do I!

 

[YorkRailFan]

Yeah now I've used both B5s and B9s it's pretty poor to see...

Even Arriva seem to be turning a corner and leaving Transdev behind in this instance with presentation.

The issue with the B5s is not just presentation but also reliability. I prefer to have a B9 on Coastliner than a B5 these days.

This conundrum has been discussed on here before. Not only do they looking untidy, they are also unreliable, because someone decided that a 4cl 5ltr engine would be sufficient to pull a decker on such a demanding route.

The obvious choice would be the Volvo B8 7.7 EvoSeti, but the tri-axle set up brings a whole world of considerations. You can pick up a E400 or Ultroliner with a Cummins 6.7 but many operators have found the ADL and Wright offerings to be unappealing.
Cummins are bringing out a 7.2 next year, it’s worth keeping an eye on

A Tri-axle would have issues in Goathland with grounding and turning unfortunately as they would be great for the 843 to Scarborough. E400 MMCs weren't very popular during their time in Malton with staff, East Yorkshire has had all sorts of reliability issues with their E400 MMCs on the X46/47 runs between Hull & York so the MMC might not be the best pic for Coastliner. Looks like it's just a waiting game to see what's next for Coastliner vehicles.

The problem I have with most apps is that there are no clear instructions. Regular users may get used to it over time but occasional ones (or me!) struggle. With the current TransdevGo, finding times for a particular stop, a useful feature, is not easy to navigate and the icons don't always convey their purpose clearly. Perhaps I'm not intuitive enough.

Finding times for a particular stop seems quite cumbersome on the current cap in comparison to the Passenger apps in my opinion. I find the user interface of Passenger a bit more appealing to the eye than the interface of the current Transdev Go app.

 

[Nikkos1977]

I find Bustimes.org much easier to use....and they cover the whole country.

Totally agree!

 

[SCH117X]

One problem with the current app it has not resolved are the stupid timetable descriptions.

The 1A/1B/1C still gives you a choice of sorting stops towards Starbeck rather than Harrogate and the 36 towards Starbeck not Ripon and towards Ripon when its showing towards Leeds.

Given the announcement is oddly timed in terms of any agreed contract I presume an ultimatum was givet to get the app sorted or else. The "or else" being enacted.

 

[dodecahedron67]

I have seen photos of an unregistered all-white B8L demo at Malton depot. Apparently was out this afternoon across the Coastliner area testing clearances etc

 

[Russel]

I have seen photos of an unregistered all-white B8L demo at Malton depot. Apparently was out this afternoon across the Coastliner area testing clearances etc

With what bodywork?

 

[dodecahedron67]

With what bodywork?

MCV EvoSeti