Trains with no toilets

[driver9000]

I remember the 317 going to Newcastle, Ive seen a photo but cant find it.

Here is one of a 317 at Newcastle on a Hornsey depot staff jolly:
http://europeanrailways.fotopic.net/p55539213.html

 

[ChampsRacing]

As people have said 455s have no toilets, Waterloo - Guilford via epsom is 1 hour 11 Mins, hounslow rounder (morning rush and evening rush) 1 hour 23 via brentford, 1 hour 25 via richmond. Ive also worked a 458 with all four toilets out of use to reading and back, hour and a half each way.

 

[Vulcan]

I know that, but the thing with Skipton - Leeds is that the toilets at Skipton are always locked which requires you to get the key from the office and return them, a bit of a pain.

I'm not saying that it's the end of the world i', just saying that forty minutes is longer than you think for a journey and you can be caught out.

For future reference, Theres 'customer' toilets in Morrisons next door to the station at Skipton that arn't locked during opening hours.

 

[GNERman]

For future reference, Theres 'customer' toilets in Morrisons next door to the station at Skipton that arn't locked during opening hours.

I do know that, i kind of live there, it's just a shame how such modern trains can be affected by the cold that bad. Itsnot drastic its just a bit annoying.

 

[Aictos]

I remember the 317 going to Newcastle, Ive seen a photo but cant find it.

Here is one of a 317 at Newcastle on a Hornsey depot staff jolly:
http://europeanrailways.fotopic.net/p55539213.html

I was told that 317 was there when GNER had to loaned in the 317s due to some problems with their own fleet.

Never knew it was a staff jolly.

 

[jon0844]

Staff jolly almost sounds like they stole it from the depot and took it on a joyride up the ECML!

Surely if they'd wanted a real jolly, they'd have used a 313!!

 

[33056]

Staff jolly almost sounds like they stole it from the depot and took it on a joyride up the ECML!

Surely if they'd wanted a real jolly, they'd have used a 313!!

The 75mph top speed would make it a rather more extended jolly than one using a 317

 

[jon0844]

We all know they can go faster than that, which is why it would have been so much more fun!

 

[Desiro Fixer]

I do know that, i kind of live there, it's just a shame how such modern trains can be affected by the cold that bad. Itsnot drastic its just a bit annoying.

The rteason modern trains have no toilets during cold snaps is not the toilet system, but the equipment for emptying it. We are no longer allowed to dump "Waste" onto the track, instead it must be stored in a waste tank until it can be empited by specialist equipment. The CEt equipment i work at is out in the open and hence has frozen up. we do endeavour to ensure that all out toilest are emptied on arrival at the depot, thus allowing passengers to use the facilities.

 

[tbtc]

Thanks for the replies. I wasn't sure whether the rules and regulations would have stopped a train with no working toilets from running or not.

I can see more "toiletless" trains in the future, given the increased complexity of toilets, and the fact that any toilet would need to be a (much larger) disabled one (or, at least one disabled one if there are more), which take up more seating space.

 

[royaloak]

Not allowed to call them "disabled" toilets any more, they are now called "universal" toilets, although I wouldn't have thought the universe would fit in it!

If the toilet is "disabled" then surely it isn't working!:roll:

 

[Polls]

Not allowed to call them "disabled" toilets any more, they are now called "universal" toilets, although I wouldn't have thought the universe would fit in it!

If the toilet is "disabled" then surely it isn't working!:roll:

This made me giggle. What's wrong with using the word 'disabled' now anyway? I think we should bring out a PC dictionary for all of us that have lost track.

All of this toilet talk has made me need a wee wee

 

[royaloak]

The PC brigade sez it discriminates against the disabled, but the term "universal" is more accurate though, as a "disabled" toilet gives the impression that only "disabled" people can use it same as men and women toilets.

 

[Wyvern]

By way of some light relief -- In the days before trains had toilets, passengers had to use facilities at the stations while the train paused. On the North Midland Railway at wayside stations they would be built under the water column so they could be flushed.

A guide book of the time by Whishaw commented that "it was a much better arrangement than in common use on other main lines." However, he added "The doorways . . .. are in so exposed a situation as naturally to shock the female portion of travellers, who, while the trains are stopping, cannot fail to observe the constant bustle about these buildings."

 

[jon0844]

I'm sure any requirement not to call a disabled toilet a disabled toilet is a myth like most PC/H&S stories are - but they spread and become fact as time goes on.

I would agree that universal or accessible would be more logical names, however.