Train guard swearing ?

[ANorthernGuard]

You mean the ticketless passengers with apparently no money only happens on those two flows or conductors exterminating passengers only happens on those two flows?

Both

 

[causton]

Last week I heard a TPE guard swear as he realised he was rapidly approaching a station call while in the middle of selling a ticket... I think his face as he walked towards the door controls showed that he realised he'd just made a mistake, and none of us who heard him looked too bothered!

 

[BestWestern]

...Of course, if it is anything like what I heard a member of staff say at Southampton in 1984, 'Shut the **** up and get back on the train', I would be concerned.

Superb!

 

[johnnychips]

It wouldn't bother me, but I think anybody over 65 brought up on Benny Hill rather than South Park may be rather offended.

(Readers under 30 - Benny Hill is not a station; readers over 65 - neither is South Park)

 

[WestCoast]

(Readers under 30 - Benny Hill is not a station; readers over 65 - neither is South Park)

 

[ANorthernGuard]

Excellent

 

[swj99]

Do you think he'd get sacked for doing this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDm-5Qnt95M

 

[Bodiddly]

Is it just me or is swearing becoming just part of the language? I recently had a BT engineer out to my faulty phone. When I asked him if he had any idea what it could be he replied " I think the cable is f**ked. My response to that was B**tard, this s**t keeps happening to my phone.
Quite normal!

 

[badger1badger]

To be fair he did not say that. He is just asking for people's opinion.

Is it professional? Probably not.

Does it bother me? I have far more important things in life to focus my attention on than this, if all he did was casually slipping the f-word into a conversation with a colleague.



Perhaps he means that the station codes do not compute.

Thanks for confirming that ... I only asked for opinion - but wow lots of posts !
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Why is the OP angry about this?

Not angry but don't see the point of him swearing
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Or as some of the people I work with would say, "kinnel. This is a discussion about f**** all, really."

Not sure that it is a big issue but - equally I don't get your comedy comments
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Totally unacceptable as it would be in any line of work in earshot of the public.

I would think he can expect a disciplinary if its reported.

I agree - I swear as much as anyone but in a customer facing role the person should have more sense

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Is it just me or is swearing becoming just part of the language? I recently had a BT engineer out to my faulty phone. When I asked him if he had any idea what it could be he replied " I think the cable is f**ked. My response to that was B**tard, this s**t keeps happening to my phone.
Quite normal!

Most 'swear words' have a genuine meaning, it's only through misuse that they became frowned upon.

 

[badger1badger]

Most 'swear words' have a genuine meaning, it's only through misuse that they became frowned upon.

I agree

 

[KA4C]

I think his employers might take a rather different view:cry:

If he was one of mine he be told not to be a see you next tuesday and be more careful in future

Anyone can slip up

 

[overtonchris]

In my first "real" job in the 70's - if you were caught swearing in front of a customer....no matter who the cuss was directed at.....you'd be out of the door...end of. Things have changed (good/ bad?) with swearing - but provided it's not used in an aggressive manner to an individual(s), or used an excuse to make someone 'uncomfortable' - I couldn't give a F***!!!!!. Sometimes a little naughtiness can lighten a situation ....and get a few laughs on the way!. Now that can't a bad thing surely?

 

[badger1badger]

In my first "real" job in the 70's - if you were caught swearing in front of a customer....no matter who the cuss was directed at.....you'd be out of the door...end of. Things have changed (good/ bad?) with swearing - but provided it's not used in an aggressive manner to an individual(s), or used an excuse to make someone 'uncomfortable' - I couldn't give a F***!!!!!. Sometimes a little naughtiness can lighten a situation ....and get a few laughs on the way!. Now that can't a bad thing surely?

Swearing in front of hard working customers, who pay premiums for train travel don't expect to hear swearing from the very person who is receiving a wage from the ticket price paid.

Swear in the cab or out of ear shot - use a little sense

Just saying ........

 

[yorksrob]

I think it's a generational thing. My parents start having palpatations if I casually use words in conversation that I don't even consider rude anymore !

 

[NJTom]

I don't curse in the workplace, but there's a couple of times something slipped out when you drop something on your toe or something, that's just human and people seem to understand that.

 

[Antman]

If he was one of mine he be told not to be a see you next tuesday and be more careful in future

Anyone can slip up

Yes if it's the first time then a word in the ear about standards should suffice

 

[Flamingo]

Swearing in front of hard working customers, who pay premiums for train travel don't expect to hear swearing from the very person who is receiving a wage from the ticket price paid.

Swear in the cab or out of ear shot - use a little sense

Just saying ........

****ing hell, how tall a ladder did you need to get all the way up on that high horse? :roll:

 

[tractakid]

I seem to be a rare breed of person that does not use any sort of swearing, nor blasphemy. I find it unpleasant and rude and do not not appreciate hearing it or reading it, never mind being insulted with it.

Something that hasn't been bought up yet- swearing on the railway is actually illegal. It's specified in the byelaws.

6. Unacceptable behaviour

(1)No person shall use any threatening, abusive, obscene or offensive language on the railway.

 

[Crossover]

As long as it's not aggressively at someone, I couldn't give a tinker's cuss.

I kind of agree with that - certainly if it is aimed maliciously at someone, then not acceptable, but it happens in general conversations. I'm sure I heard a guard under his breath mention the f word followed by "sake" when, after shutting all except the local door on a HST, a group of passengers got on at one of the closed ones, boarded and pulled it only enough to make it catch the latch. I was watching the proceedings as intently as the guard and I think my mutterings would have been very similar!

(Readers under 30 - Benny Hill is not a station; readers over 65 - neither is South Park)

That's just made my Friday afternoon...thanks!

Is it just me or is swearing becoming just part of the language? I recently had a BT engineer out to my faulty phone. When I asked him if he had any idea what it could be he replied " I think the cable is f**ked. My response to that was B**tard, this s**t keeps happening to my phone.
Quite normal!

I think in some situations it is - at work (not immediately public facing) it seems to be fairly common in some circles, and I find myself following suit at times too

If he was one of mine he be told not to be a see you next tuesday and be more careful in future

Ah, my immediate colleagues are forever using that one!

 

[cf111]

I'm not in a customer-facing job at the moment, but I've worked in some before and I didn't swear in front of customers. In all honesty it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if a guard or anyone else swore in my earshot as long as it wasn't directed at me or someone else.

 

[dk1]

Oh well. One of them things. Used to be compulsary for rail staff to curse out loud.

 

[33056]

I was always told that the railway ran on tea and bad language

 

[dcsprior]

I think the "swearword" in the original post would probably not be counted as such by many people any more; I would certainly not hesitate to use it openly (though after about 10 mins of typing / deleting / typing, I've decided not to include it or another couple of examples of other words that I think the same about - as badger1badger presumably does consider it to be offensive)

EDIT: the above was based on an incorrect assumption of what the actual word was that was bowdlerised in the OP

 

[455driver]

Of course while us railstaff should never swear it is okay for any Tom, Dick or Harriet stand there and call us all the bast++ds on earth and we are expected to take it, yes?

Well put it this way you can f++k right off sunshine, I might be railstaff but I am also a human being and expect to be treated as one.
If somebody thinks its acceptable to swear at me then I will sure as hell is a bit warm be swearing straight back at them!

If they have got a problem with that then tough I couldnt give 2 shakes of a rats-arse, treat others as you yourself expect to be treated!

 

[185]

I seem to be a rare breed of person that does not use any sort of swearing, nor blasphemy. I find it unpleasant and rude and do not not appreciate hearing it or reading it, never mind being insulted with it.

Something that hasn't been bought up yet- swearing on the railway is actually illegal. It's specified in the byelaws.

Great. I break that every ******* day. :P

 

[johnnychips]

Of course while us railstaff should never swear it is okay for any Tom, Dick or Harriet stand there and call us all the bast++ds on earth and we are expected to take it, yes?

Well put it this way you can f++k right off sunshine, I might be railstaff but I am also a human being and expect to be treated as one.
If somebody thinks its acceptable to swear at me then I will sure as hell is a bit warm be swearing straight back at them!

If they have got a problem with that then tough I couldnt give 2 shakes of a rats-arse, treat others as you yourself expect to be treated!

I mostly agree with you, but if you can avoid descending to their level - not easy I know - you win the moral argument.

 

[455driver]

I did actually mean that.

If its somebody just sounding off because they are frustrated then I will let them get it off their chest without saying anything back, but if it is persistent abuse then they can FRO!

 

[tractakid]

Great. I break that every ******* day. :P

:/ Congratulations?

 

[route:oxford]

I'm not in a customer-facing job at the moment, but I've worked in some before and I didn't swear in front of customers. In all honesty it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if a guard or anyone else swore in my earshot as long as it wasn't directed at me or someone else.

I faced disciplinary action for swearing in front of a customer once.

Three other "visitors" to the office had pulled guns on us.

It was deemed "inappropriate behaviour" and an apology written to the customer by head office...

(The customer wrote back and advised that she had known me for at least 10 years, never once heard me swear, and it was *entirely* appropriate language in the circumstances).