The West Coast Premir

[I T S]

Hey guys,

Can anyone advise me of the times @ Preston of the West Coast Premier hauled by 87002 on 10th Sept?

Rail blue charters are running Watford/Edinburgh!


Cheers

 

[87031]

final times not released yet id expect it to be in the region of 900am

 

[I T S]

final times not released yet id expect it to be in the region of 900am

Any advice from fellow gricers for what platform to be on for a decent shot?

 

[captainbigun]

Timings now available on the RBC website here.

I have a few more if anyone wants them.

 

[matt]

Anyone else on this tour? I am on it from Nuneaton.

 

[captainbigun]

For the OP, due past Preston at half 9 (platform 3 booked), then looped at Barton & Broughton Pass for 10 mins or so.

 

[I T S]

For the OP, due past Preston at half 9 (platform 3 booked), then looped at Barton & Broughton Pass for 10 mins or so.

Many thanks captain!

 

[87031]

Picking it up at Nuneaton then down to Watford on the return

 

[Daimler]

I'll be travelling on this tomorrow - is there any way of finding detailed timings for the route, as Rail-Blue's website only lists pick-up points. Alternatively, will we be given (as used to happen on Past-Time Rail) a little booklet containing the timings and information about the journey on board?

 

[sprinterguy]

Does anyone know if it'll be going up the fast lines along the Trent Valley after the Nuneaton pick up, or kept on the slow line out of the way of the Pendos? I'm hoping to get a shot of it at either Tamworth or Lichfield.

 

[Mr Spock]

I'll be travelling on this tomorrow - is there any way of finding detailed timings for the route, as Rail-Blue's website only lists pick-up points. Alternatively, will we be given (as used to happen on Past-Time Rail) a little booklet containing the timings and information about the journey on board?

Yes Rail Blue do supply a booklet (A4 size) with journey details, mileages and times.

 

[matt]

I am in coach B seat 17F if any one wants to come and say hello.

 

[captainbigun]

Outbound.....

WATFORDJN 06:02
HEMELHEMP 06:08 06:10
BORNE END PASS 06:11
BERKHSTED 06:13 06:15
TRING 06:20 06:22
LEDBURNJN PASS 06:25
LGHTNBUZZ 06:28 06:30
BLETCHLEY PASS 06:37
MILTON KC 06:41 06:43
HANSLOPEJ PASS 06:50
NORTHAMPT 07:01 07:03
LNGBUCKBY PASS 07:12
HILMORTNJ PASS 07:21
RUGBY 07:23 07:25
RUGBY TVJ PASS 07:25
BRINKLOW PASS 07:34
ATTLBROSJ PASS 07:38
NUNEATON 07:41 07:43
AMINGTONJ PASS 07:50
LICHFLDNJ PASS 07:55
RUGELYNJN PASS 08:02
COLWICH PASS 08:07
STAFFORD PASS 08:15
NORTONBGE PASS 08:18
MADELEY PASS 08:25
CREWEBHJN PASS 08:32
CREWE 08:42 08:47
CWECOALYD PASS 08:50
WINSFORD PASS 08:55
HARTFORDJ PASS 09:00
ACTONBDGE PASS 09:01
WEAVER JN PASS 09:03
ACTNGNGJN PASS 09:08
WARRTN BQ PASS 09:10
WARRDALLJ PASS 09:11
WINWICK J PASS 09:13
SPRINGSBJ PASS 09:18
WIGAN SJN PASS 09:18
WIGAN NW PASS 09:19
BLSHAWLJN PASS 09:24
EUXTON JN PASS 09:26
PRESTON PASS 09:30
BARTON&B 09:36 09:48
LANCASTER PASS 10:00
MORCM SJN PASS 10:01
CRNFTHNJN PASS 10:03
OXENHOLME PASS 10:11
TEBAY PASS 10:22
PENRITH PASS 10:35
CARLISLE 10:51 10:53
GRETNA JN PASS 11:00
COVE863 PASS 11:03
LOCKERBIE PASS 11:11
BEATTOCK PASS 11:19
BEATOKSUM PASS 11:27
ABINGTON 11:34 11:41
CARSTSSJN PASS 11:53
CARSTRS E PASS 11:56
AUCHEGRAY PASS 12:00
TORPHIN PASS 12:04
MIDCLDRJN PASS 12:08
SLATFD JN PASS 12:19
HAYMARKET PASS 12:29
PRNCSST G PASS 12:31
EDINBURGH 12:33

Mostly slows Watford to Northampton, then fasts from Rugby to Crewe Basford Hall Jn.
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Return.....

EDINBURGH 16:42
PRNCSST G PASS 16:43
HAYMARKET PASS 16:44
SLATFD JN PASS 16:48
MIDCLDRJN PASS 16:56
TORPHIN PASS 17:00
AUCHEGRAY PASS 17:03
CARSTRS E PASS 17:09
CARSTSSJN PASS 17:11
ABINGTON PASS 17:20
BEATOKSUM PASS 17:27
BEATTOCK PASS 17:33
LOCKERBIE PASS 17:42
COVE862 PASS 17:50
QUINTHLPS 17:54 18:00
GRETNA JN PASS 18:01
CARLISLE 18:10 18:12
PENRITH PASS 18:27
TEBAY PASS 18:40
OXENHOLME PASS 18:49
CRNFTHNJN PASS 18:58
CRNFTHUPL 19:00 19:11
MORCM SJN PASS 19:19
LANCASTER PASS 19:23
PRESTON PASS 19:43
EUXTON JN PASS 19:50
BLSHAWLJN PASS 19:54
WIGAN NW PASS 20:04
WIGAN SJN PASS 20:04
SPRINGSBJ PASS 20:05
WINWICK J PASS 20:09
WARRDALLJ PASS 20:11
WARRTN BQ PASS 20:12
ACTNGNGJN PASS 20:16
WEAVER JN PASS 20:22
ACTONBDGE PASS 20:23
HARTFORDJ PASS 20:25
WINSFORD PASS 20:28
CWECOALYD PASS 20:33
CREWE 20:35 20:37
CREWEBHJN PASS 20:40
MADELEY PASS 20:45
NORTONBGE PASS 20:54
STAFFORD PASS 21:05
STAFF TVJ PASS 21:06
WHITEHSEJ PASS 21:08
COLWICH PASS 21:18
RUGELYNJN PASS 21:19
LICHFLDNJ PASS 21:24
AMINGTONJ PASS 21:29
NUNEATON 21:37 21:39
RUGBY TVJ PASS 21:50
RUGBY 21:52 21:54
HILMORTNJ PASS 21:56
LNGBUCKBY PASS 22:02
NORTHAMPT 22:11 22:13
HANSLOPEJ PASS 22:21
MILTON KC 22:27 22:29
BLETCHLEY PASS 22:32
LGHTNBUZZ 22:37 22:39
LEDBURNJN PASS 22:43
TRING 22:50 22:52
BERKHSTED 22:55 22:57
BORNE END PASS 22:59
HEMELHEMP 23:00 23:02
WATFORDJN 23:09

Slows Crewe to Stafford, fasts Stafford to Rugby then slows Northampton to Bourne End Jn, fasts for the short dash to Watford.

 

[sprinterguy]

Ah great stuff, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Will hopefully see it passing tomorrow then.

 

[sprinterguy]

Got a shot of it passing through Tamworth today on my way to work, about 15 down, with a northbound Pendo unbelievably close on it's tail! I'm amazed at how close together the trains can run on the Trent Valley. Very happy now It was sad seeing classmate 87031 sitting in the scrapyard in Kingsbury on my way back to Birmingham though.

 

[37401]

Gutted I couldnt make this tour myself but 86101 In december should be good

 

[90019]

Hopefully if the weather clears up a bit I might make it into town later on when it's leaving.

 

[matt]

Been a good trip so far. Arrived about 15 late in Waverley.

 

[captainbigun]

Aye, followed a coal train from Carstairs.

 

[I T S]

Got a shot of it passing through Tamworth today on my way to work, about 15 down, with a northbound Pendo unbelievably close on it's tail! I'm amazed at how close together the trains can run on the Trent Valley. Very happy now It was sad seeing classmate 87031 sitting in the scrapyard in Kingsbury on my way back to Birmingham though.

87002 on the tour passed Preston at 09:36 this morning through platform 3! Pics up shortly @ irishtrainscenes.fotopic.net

55022 also appeared @ 09:16

 

[87015]

Well I had a grand day out

One of the best tours I've done (in this country) for a long long time...

 

[route101]

Shame i missed this I used to think the 87s were boring and common

 

[87031]

Was a proper decent tour only downer was the weather and it go's to show electric traction tours can sell (easier if its 002). Considering the name of the next tour in December "The Royal Scot" i think a reappearance from 002 would be most welcome. Well done to Railblue for this a truly memorable day a real taster of what it was like doing 87s in the late eighties and how the WCML should be remembered

 

[Daimler]

Well, this was the first railtour I've been on in a few years, and I can only add to the comments above - it was a really great day out, with well presented, comfortable stock, and great traction - and for someone like me who can't remember rail blue days, it was a great feeling to ride behind a blue 87 hauling a rake of blue and grey coaches.

Overall, a fantastic day - best train ride I've had in years!

 

[37401]

Was a proper decent tour only downer was the weather and it go's to show electric traction tours can sell (easier if its 002). Considering the name of the next tour in December "The Royal Scot" i think a reappearance from 002 would be most welcome. Well done to Railblue for this a truly memorable day a real taster of what it was like doing 87s in the late eighties and how the WCML should be remembered

86101 booked for the royal scot

 

[87015]

86101 booked for the royal scot

requested for...

 

[captainbigun]

101 booked....For now.

 

[Class 33]

It is great that Class 86 and 87's are being used for railtours. There ought to be more electric traction railtours.

But a shame about the timings of this and the December The ROyal Scot railtour. Would be great if the tour started in Euston instead of Watford. And with the 5:30am start, it's not possible to base yourself in London overnight and get to Watford for that early.

 

[captainbigun]

Running the tour out of London means an additional loco is required to take the stock to Euston, the additional cost of this is a problem. The timings reflect the 100mph top speed and number of stops and are the only way to provide time at the destination. Important given that the majority of customers aren't enthusiasts.

Plenty of places to grab a bed from in Watford.

 

[87031]

It is great that Class 86 and 87's are being used for railtours. There ought to be more electric traction railtours.

But a shame about the timings of this and the December The ROyal Scot railtour. Would be great if the tour started in Euston instead of Watford. And with the 5:30am start, it's not possible to base yourself in London overnight and get to Watford for that early.

Id pay a premium for 110mph timings a rake of Cargo D mk3s in blue and a Euston start with Preston-Carlisle stops just like the Royal Scot used to be. Dream on :roll: