The Pretendolino thread

[tcm1106]

I've seen a document at work relating to the introduction of the VT 11 car 390s with all of the diagrams stipulated on a week-by-week basis. IIRC, 1K39 is a priority from week 1.

 

[Jdrowlands]

1K39 looks likely to be hauled on Thursday next week instead: all the related moves specific to the Pretendolino are in (Northampton test run etc) and they are STP cancelled on Friday.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Friday is a bank holiday next week isn't it?

Whereas Thursday is Maundy Thursday, the busiest evening peak of the whole year.

 

[RobShipway]

Friday is a bank holiday next week isn't it?

Whereas Thursday is Maundy Thursday, the busiest evening peak of the whole year.

Yes, Friday is Good Friday with the following Monday being Easter Monday.

 

[MCR247]

I've seen a document at work relating to the introduction of the VT 11 car 390s with all of the diagrams stipulated on a week-by-week basis. IIRC, 1K39 is a priority from week 1.

The arrangements are under a usual week:
Mon-Thurs;
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (11 car Pendo)
1G40 1903 Euston-Birmingham New Street (A pair of 221s)
Fridays:
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (Class 90+Mk3s)
1P05 1846 Euston-Preston (11 car Pendo)

(from AndyS on another forum)

 

[Dreadnought]

The arrangements are under a usual week:
Mon-Thurs;
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (11 car Pendo)
1G40 1903 Euston-Birmingham New Street (A pair of 221s)
Fridays:
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (Class 90+Mk3s)
1P05 1846 Euston-Preston (11 car Pendo)

(from AndyS on another forum)

Seems odd that 1P05 would go from a 5 coach voyager to a 11 coach pendo! I would have thought that the 18:57 FO service to Manchester would be more likely to get a 11 car pendolino.

 

[MCR247]

I thought that! The 5 221 will go to strengthen another 5 221 working, so I think thats why

 

[phil281]

I thought that! The 5 221 will go to strengthen another 5 221 working, so I think thats why

I've been told by a controller at Virgin that on FO the 11 car will be the 18:57 MAN additional,

 

[tonytat]

hi does anyone know if virgin will keep this set on when the new franchise starts with the new 390's they have had delivered

 

[Simon11]

hi does anyone know if virgin will keep this set on when the new franchise starts with the new 390's they have had delivered

For a start we don't know who will be running the west coast after december. Then it will be up to what they have put in their bid, whether they wish to have an additional rolling stock.

 

[eMeS]

The arrangements are under a usual week:
Mon-Thurs;
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (11 car Pendo)
1G40 1903 Euston-Birmingham New Street (A pair of 221s)
Fridays:
1K39 1843 Euston-Crewe (Class 90+Mk3s)
1P05 1846 Euston-Preston (11 car Pendo)

(from AndyS on another forum)

When does this schedule commence - particularly the 1K39 Mon-Thurs 11 car Pendolino?

Thanks

 

[phil281]

When does this schedule commence - particularly the 1K39 Mon-Thurs 11 car Pendolino?

Thanks

Been confirmed tomorrow, its definatly doing 18:43 ex Euston don't know rest of diagram though yet. The schedule above I believe is wrong on Fridays, should be 18:57 for the 11 car.

 

[dave87016]

14:30pm Euston - Lancaster yesterday was 11 car pendolino as was the return working

 

[phil281]

14:30pm Euston - Lancaster yesterday was 11 car pendolino as was the return working[/QUO

I'm sure it wasn't I would have known and TRUST says pendolino 054 is still 9 coaches

 

[eMeS]

Thanks - I assumed it was starting yesterday, ...

so complete with camcorder waited at MKC from 19.00 through to 20.15 and saw no 11 car Pendolinos... At least I learnt a little more about the controls on my camcorder.

 

[phil281]

Thanks - I assumed it was starting yesterday, ...

so complete with camcorder waited at MKC from 19.00 through to 20.15 and saw no 11 car Pendolinos... At least I learnt a little more about the controls on my camcorder.

It was supposed to be yesterday but apparantly there was an issue with the set, I've been told by my sources it will definatly be out tomorrow but you never know!
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Posponed again

 

[Chester025]

43 for 1K39 tomorrow.

 

[IrishDave]

The May 2012 issue of Today's Railways UK has a piece on p63 saying the Pretendolino will be stopped for two weeks at the end of April:

"The Virgin loco-hauled Mark 3 set will undergo a 2-week E exam at the end of April, during which its regular Friday turn (the 18.43 Euston-Crewe) is expected to be worked by a Voyager."

Any ideas when exactly that'll be? And any word on whether the Pretendolino is out tomorrow? I was thinking of getting 1K39 tomorrow if it is...

 

[Lrd]

The May 2012 issue of Today's Railways UK has a piece on p63 saying the Pretendolino will be stopped for two weeks at the end of April:

"The Virgin loco-hauled Mark 3 set will undergo a 2-week E exam at the end of April, during which its regular Friday turn (the 18.43 Euston-Crewe) is expected to be worked by a Voyager."

Any ideas when exactly that'll be? And any word on whether the Pretendolino is out tomorrow? I was thinking of getting 1K39 tomorrow if it is...

Fairly sure it's already finished I'm afraid.

 

[43094]

It hasn't. 90049 allocated to 1K39 tonight.

 

[Jdrowlands]

Fairly sure it's already finished I'm afraid.

You should read the thread then: 1K39 is planned to stay loco-hauled on a Friday until the end of the franchise in December.

90049 on the set this weekend, including a footex Liverpool-Euston on Saturday.

 

[Lrd]

You should read the thread then: 1K39 is planned to stay loco-hauled on a Friday until the end of the franchise in December.

90049 on the set this weekend, including a footex Liverpool-Euston on Saturday.

Sorry I was going by twitter with a few people saying 'they were doing what could be the last ever Prentendolino' a few weeks ago.

 

[a1a.a1a]

I was going by twitter with a few people saying 'they were doing what could be the last ever Prentendolino' a few weeks ago.

Silly sods!

 

[DarloRich]

90044 was out with the training run this morning. It paused in MKC at 1124

 

[Chester025]

Looking like 'large' 90016 for tonights 1K39.

 

[Phil H]

Why did this rather battered and dented train pull into Northampton northbound, then go back out southbound 15 mins later about 12pm Friday. Didn't look like any passengers on it. Think its reg number as 90044.

 

[33056]

The loco might have been a bit tatty (90044 is one of the grey ones IIRC) but the coaches are no worse than a Pendo with regards to their exterior state. The loco for the set comes up to Wembley from Crewe in the early hours of Friday morning and the set normally has a test / crew refreshing run from Wembley to Northampton and back late morning / lunchtime (10:29 from Wembley and 12:08 from Northampton); it is a timetabled move.

 

[DarloRich]

Is the pretendolino still running? Is it out on the 1843 from Euston tomorrow?

 

[MCR247]

Yes it's still running afaik

 

[sprinterguy]

I hope so, gives me good reason to kick my heels at the Betjeman Arms for an hour or so after work and give myself some variety in my daily commute by catching the loco hauled set.

Not that I need much of a reason to while away an hour at the Betjeman Arms anyway