That Littel Yellow Train, and the Spanish end

[Mark_Lester]

I cannae find any timetables for the Latour de Carol end.
Have they pulled the whole thing up in order to put fancy trains on it from Barca to Toulouse or sommat ?
Also, I saw a pic of open carriages like on the Bernina in the summer (11:20 train I think). Does anyone know if that's just for French people ?.

 

[grid56126]

http://cdn.ter.sncf.com/medias/PDF/...erpignan-Latour 2_tcm60-65560_tcm60-65544.pdf

 

[Mark_Lester]

merci bien. That's just the line itself though, I am trying to work out how I get from the other end, short of coming all the way back.
There's supposed to be a TGV running along this at some stage, which obviously means they are going to have to knock the rails a bit closer as invasion is no longer considered anything but ridiculous.

 

[30907]

The French side timetable will be under Midi-Pyrenees on the same TER site.

The Spanish side is on the Rodalies (Cercanias) Barcelona pages of the RENFE site, as it's part of the Barcelona outer suburban network.

The only reference I can find to a TGV route is to a link via Narbonne connecting to the LGV Med. In other words, the same route as the motorway.

And the open carriages are first come, first served, no passport checks. Take sunscreen!

 

[Mark_Lester]

gracias. but this is my problem, nothing shows up, not on bahn, not on renfe, not nothing.
I dont want a TGV, I'd like a not too full but as clapped out as you like local train. But a train of any description will do.
To be specific, it's the spanish side I have trouble with.

 

[Glenmutchkin]

Does this map help any? Line R3 (the red one) terminates at a place called La Tor de Querol which sounds suspiciously like a Spanish version* of Latour-de-Carol where the Yellow train terminates.

http://www.barcelonas.com/images/barcelona-rodalies-local-trains-map.jpg

This timetable suggests that you can get to Barcelona Sants in just over 3 hours

http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/cercanias/barcelona/


* or maybe Catalan

 

[Mark_Lester]

yes, that's it.
So we now know it's called R3, and what the Catalan is for any of these.
But still no firm evidence that it's in use, and just as importantly, when
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beg ' pardon. 2nd link. well done, mucho obligo
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might as well stick this in here.
My next conundrum is attempting to tackle Mont Blanc via the South face, or from Italy/Aosta and get a bus through the tunnel du mont blanc (which I have).
The line in theory continues up to Pre Saint Didier, but trenitalia doesnt give any times.
Is it game over at Aosta ?.

 

[30907]

gracias. but this is my problem, nothing shows up, not on bahn, not on renfe, not nothing.To be specific, it's the spanish side I have trouble with.

No, as you have discovered, the main RENFE site doesn't cover the suburban networks, so bahn.com doesn't have them either.

There are similar issues in Italy with non TI lines. However, this isn't the problem here, sadly; it is indeed game over.

http://www.quotidianopiemontese.it/2015/12/25/da-natale-sospeso-il-servizio-della-ferrovia-aosta-pre-saint-didier/#.VxfP5BLTXMI

Bus website: http://www.savda.it/it/orari.php

 

[Mark_Lester]

No, as you have discovered, the main RENFE site doesn't cover the suburban networks, so bahn.com doesn't have them either. There are similar issues in Italy with non TI lines.

Ah, I had this problem with the train up to Tirano once, which Bahn doesnt have and wants s to send you via zurich. But at least trenialia did have that.
This will be camp for the night, first bus and off to le nid.
OK, ta.

 

[Glenmutchkin]

My next conundrum is attempting to tackle Mont Blanc via the South face, or from Italy/Aosta and get a bus through the tunnel du mont blanc (which I have).
The line in theory continues up to Pre Saint Didier, but trenitalia doesnt give any times.
Is it game over at Aosta ?.

How's your Italian? it can't be any worse than mine but a headline of

Ferrovia, ad Arvier il “funerale” della Aosta/Pré-St-Didier: stop alle corse il 24 dicembre

does not look good.

Article here http://www.lastampa.it/2015/12/15/e...l-dicembre-3yrDtt2gfkJQ2Qr9dAAFrJ/pagina.html

The Italian Wiki page seems to confirm the above

La sospensione del traffico[modifica | modifica wikitesto]
L'assessore ai trasporti della Regione Valle d'Aosta ha annunciato la sospensione della linea a partire dal 24 dicembre 2015 in considerazione della scarsa utenza registrata e dei costi di manutenzione giudicati al momento non sostenibili[9].

From https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrovia_Aosta-Pré-Saint-Didier

 

[Mark_Lester]

oh, there's some bad words in there arent there.
I may still go this way, two tunnels through the rocks, and get to camp in Italy for the night.

BTW, There is a nice bus from Tirano to Erodo, so I am making that an excuse to T-shirt it back over the Bernina for the 4th time in order to tee up the Brenner on the way to Mount ****. (ed, it's called that, i guess you knew).
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Oh, I got censored of course anyway. Starts with W, bestest mountain line in all of Germany.

 

[Glenmutchkin]

Oh, I got censored of course anyway. Starts with W, bestest mountain line in all of Germany.

I saw something about it on Facebook. Have fun.