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FrodshamJnct

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Does anyone know what the plan is for the weekend?
Saturday 1st November

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D1 - 67010 Set HD01 (Loco CDF end)

*Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.18 CRE CS - MAN 06.19)

1V33 06.27 Manchester - Cardiff 09.50
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.20

(5K65 ECS 22.36 MAN - CRE CS 23.22)

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D2 - *UNIT*

*Via Styal*
(5V37 ECS 07.16 CRE CS - MAN 08.09)

1V37 08.30 Manchester - Cardiff 11.35
1W59 12.53 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Swansea 20.46

(5V50 ECS 21.11 SWA - CDF CS 22.32)

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D3 - *UNIT*

(5W13 ECS 04.08 CDF CS - SWA 05.10)

1W13 05.39 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.45
1W61 14.53 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.50

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D4 - *UNIT*

1W55 08.54 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.43
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.13

*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.08)

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67008 has failed at Holyhead this evening whilst shunting HD07, with a coolant leak. Nothing in or out of Holyhead at the moment as it’s across the points.
 

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Is there any feeling for how many Mk4 sets will be available tomorrow.

I understand this means that 67008 and HD07 is uncertain for the Holyhead start.
 

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The 08:53 from Cardiff appears to be a 197 (197120 showing on RTT), which would suggest that one of the Mk4s from Crewe is not going to make it out.
 

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1W11 is also not a Mk4, but also has an empty Standard Premium which makes it a good start to a Monday.

They do seem to have a Mk4 on 1W13 though, so there was indeed one Cardiff set out this morning.

All this does mean that 1W12 is only a 2-car 197. Glad I am not on that one today.
 

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Afternoon

1. What are the current formations of - which set with which loco please ?

2. Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?

Thank you

Dave
67010 Set 1, 1V33, 1W61, 1V62
67029 Set 2, 1W13, 1V39, 1W96

67015 Set 3, ATC Dvt on Wheel skate
Should move later to Electric depot
Think 67012 is with it.

No loco Set 4 ATC
No loco Set 5 ATC - B exam

67020 Set 6 Cardiff, out of service
All last week, since Monday

67008 Set 7 Holyhead failed
67005 expected to go over later
From Crewe to drag it back
 
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67010 Set 1, 1V33, 1W61, 1V62
67029 Set 2, 1W13, 1V39, 1W96

67015 Set 3, ATC Dvt on Wheel skate
Should move later to Electric depot
Think 67012 is with it.

No loco Set 4 ATC
No loco Set 5 ATC - B exam

67020 Set 6 Cardiff, out of service
All last week, since Monday

67008 Set 7 Holyhead failed
67005 expected to go over later
From Crewe to drag it back
67016 Is on 5
 

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67010 Set 1, 1V33, 1W61, 1V62
67029 Set 2, 1W13, 1V39, 1W96

67015 Set 3, ATC Dvt on Wheel skate
Should move later to Electric depot
Think 67012 is with it.

No loco Set 4 ATC
No loco Set 5 ATC - B exam

67020 Set 6 Cardiff, out of service
All last week, since Monday

67008 Set 7 Holyhead failed
67005 expected to go over later
From Crewe to drag it back
@37052 xb mr

Thank you

Dave
 

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67010 Set 1, 1V33, 1W61, 1V62
67029 Set 2, 1W13, 1V39, 1W96

67015 Set 3, ATC Dvt on Wheel skate
Should move later to Electric depot
Think 67012 is with it.

No loco Set 4 ATC
No loco Set 5 ATC - B exam

67020 Set 6 Cardiff, out of service
All last week, since Monday

67008 Set 7 Holyhead failed
67005 expected to go over later
From Crewe to drag it back
67008 dropped it's coolent.
 

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Looks like only 2 out of 5 diagrams today. I think this is the worst its been in quite a while. Its resulted in a quite a few South Wales-Manchester running as 3 or even 2 cars today.
 

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Looks like only 2 out of 5 diagrams today. I think this is the worst its been in quite a while. Its resulted in a quite a few South Wales-Manchester running as 3 or even 2 cars today.
Availability has certainly been dreadful for the past week or so, coming after a really good spell too. Tomorrow should see 3 and a half diagrams, likely 4 for the rest of this week and back to 5 next.

Current stauts are:
HD01 back in service tomorrow
HD02 In service
HD03 Severe wheelflats. Heading for new wheelsets and Investigation at Crewe ETD
HD04 In service
HD05 Heavy exam and lighting/electrical upgrades
HD06 Bell/Buzzer issues that haven't been rectified at Canton now moved to Crewe ETD
HD07 Loco coolant leak, back in service tomorrow afternoon with a different loco

The short forms aren't just because of Mk4s, 197s are suffering too and are well short of where they need to be. Leaf fall hasn't really helped the situation despite more lathes coming into use
 

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As a matter of interest, each Mk4 that is missing requires a 197. That splits a planned 197 pairing. So with 3 197s covering Mk4, that would mean 3 pairs are running as singles. With the pairs every 2 hours I think it means they are only 1 197 short of being able to run all pairs without the Mk4 needing covering?

If so it seems a bit harsh to blame 197 availability for the issues?
 

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