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TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc

LNW-GW Joint

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Could you provide a link? I have a 16-25 railcard - if that is applicable I'll likely upgrade.
I think I've found the fare as £14.50 with 16-25 railcard.
As you've found it is tucked away at the bottom of the listing under "Other Fares".
It also confusingly refers to Manchester-Cardiff (meaning the entire route served) and "Not normally available for purchase".
£14.65 with railcard.
 
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Down to 3 today

1V91 67022 set 3
1W13 67015 set 2
1V33 67020 set 5
1V31 197011
1W11 to Crewe only 67017 set 1 - 197046 forward

Set 4 A exam
Set 6 Tyre Turning
Set 7 B exam
 

sd0733

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Down to 3 today

1V91 67022 set 3
1W13 67015 set 2
1V33 67020 set 5
1V31 197011
1W11 to Crewe only 67017 set 1 - 197046 forward

Set 4 A exam
Set 6 Tyre Turning
Set 7 B exam
67017 was due a loco exam at Canton overnight but wasn't able to be done so is being done at Crewe during the day. Its going back out later to get to Canton.

HD04 should be back tomorrow for the 5th set and HD06 should be available from Wednesday following tyre turning.
 

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67017 was due a loco exam at Canton overnight but wasn't able to be done so is being done at Crewe during the day. Its going back out later to get to Canton.

HD04 should be back tomorrow for the 5th set and HD06 should be available from Wednesday following tyre turning.
Thanks
Is 67016 still at EMD please
 

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Down to 3 today

1V91 67022 set 3
1W13 67015 set 2
1V33 67020 set 5
1V31 197011
1W11 to Crewe only 67017 set 1 - 197046 forward

Set 4 A exam
Set 6 Tyre Turning
Set 7 B exam
Its been a while since they were 2 down. Good to hear it will be back to normal tomorrow.
 

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67017 was due a loco exam at Canton overnight but wasn't able to be done so is being done at Crewe during the day. Its going back out later to get to Canton.

HD04 should be back tomorrow for the 5th set and HD06 should be available from Wednesday following tyre turning.
Fingers crossed for me then! I’m booked on the 1653 Cardiff to Piccadilly this Wednesday and really don’t fancy a 2 car 197 for the trip.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what can I expect from 1st class if I’m lucky enough to get the loco hauled set?
 

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Fingers crossed for me then! I’m booked on the 1653 Cardiff to Piccadilly this Wednesday and really don’t fancy a 2 car 197 for the trip.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what can I expect from 1st class if I’m lucky enough to get the loco hauled set?
Good job it’s not tomorrow
1V31 current allocated 197004
 

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Sorry if this has been asked before, but what can I expect from 1st class if I’m lucky enough to get the loco hauled set?

Apart from the quieter carriage, and larger seats, you’ll get free tea/coffee/hot choc/orange juice, and access to the menu (additional cost for food) although that train you’re booked on is usually only the Light Bites menu rather than the full course dinner menu, so just sandwiches, hot baps etc
 

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Today at Crewe depot (3/2/25):

67029 connected to HD04

67016 connected to HD07

67017 connected to HD01 which left to go on 1W59 and replace the 197.
 

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RTT shows there are 2 diagrams that are 197s today. The 0435 and 0853 from Cardiff (unless they are being swapped later?). Seems to be not such a good week this week so far considering the last couple of weeks have been good.
 

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Feels good to have a Mk4 on 1W13, another trip where one wonders how everyone fit onto a 150. (18-5)
 

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Apart from the quieter carriage, and larger seats, you’ll get free tea/coffee/hot choc/orange juice, and access to the menu (additional cost for food) although that train you’re booked on is usually only the Light Bites menu rather than the full course dinner menu, so just sandwiches, hot baps etc
Thanks. If I do end up one a 197, does that have a catering trolley and also a 1st class apartment?
 

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Thanks. If I do end up one a 197, does that have a catering trolley and also a 1st class apartment?
No, class 197s do not have first class they're all standard. However if you get 113-126 they have a declassified "standard premium".

Catering trolley is route dependent.
 

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Thanks. If I do end up one a 197, does that have a catering trolley and also a 1st class apartment?

If you do end up with a 197 you should still end up wit a catering trolley as they work down on the 12:30 from Manc Picc. The trolley will leave at Shrewsbury through, as the Manchester hosts have nowhere to store trolleys/food at Picc as present. Show your tickets to the host should this happen as you’re still entitled to a hot drink/snack and you can get your refund back to a standard ticket online.
 

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HD04 wasn't ready for today, its Planned to be tomorrow but as the spare as HD01-06 should all be available with HD01/02/03/05/06 as the in service rakes.

Thursday should see HD01/03/04/05/06 as the 5 rakes, 67015 is heading back to DB for maintenance so HD02 will stand down for Thursday.
 

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HD04 wasn't ready for today, its Planned to be tomorrow but as the spare as HD01-06 should all be available with HD01/02/03/05/06 as the in service rakes.

Thursday should see HD01/03/04/05/06 as the 5 rakes, 67015 is heading back to DB for maintenance so HD02 will stand down for Thursday.
Thanks
 

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Today at Crewe depot (4/2/25)

67029 connected to HD04

67016 connected to HD07

67013 connected to HD06 which has now arrived at ATC after wheel turning next door.
 

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