TfW 175 shortages

[Techniquest]

Oh yes, obvious now - doh! - I thought it was Electric Current (for) Traction, and couldn't understand why!!!

No worries! Easy enough to have one of those moments, especially so when familiar with a TLA spelt the same way!

 

[Bikeman78]

Just had 175006 pass Leominster on 1V92.....doesn't seem to have much go in it....usually when the 175s leave Leominster they are moving at quite a pace by the time they pass the box but this one seemed quiet and sluggish

175006 is an absolute shed. Rarely makes it through the day, today being no exception.

 

[323235]

I was reading Modern Railway at the weekend and was surprised to read that the owner of the 175s is discussing use by other TOCs and is not yet planning to scrap them.

 

[animationmilo]

Only seems to be 175108 out today and 175116 too

 

[tomm]

There's a confusion with 08:25 Manchester Airport to Holyhead RTT sais 197009 and 175116 maybe one of them had a fault on 05:01 Holyhead to Manchester airport?

 

[craigybagel]

There's a confusion with 08:25 Manchester Airport to Holyhead RTT sais 197009 and 175116 maybe one of them had a fault on 05:01 Holyhead to Manchester airport?

197009 worked Holyhead to Chester, handing over to 175116 from there to Manchester Airport and then back to Chester again, where 197009 went back on the diagram.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

175116 failed at pontypool this evening, fire alarms going off apparently but unknown whether there actually was a fire. The Hereford based fitter was sent to see what could be done.

 

[Anonymous10]

175116 failed at pontypool this evening, fire alarms going off apparently but unknown whether there actually was a fire. The Hereford based fitter was sent to see what could be done.

Such a shame that a unit released after a thorough clean could have a fire or at the least a alarm set off in such a way. Sadly these instances will likely mean my favourite class will see no further use after tfw

 

[Topological]

These 175s are confusing me now. For days we only had 175/0 out because it was more efficient to do 2 engines and now they have disappeared and today it has been two 175/1s that have been mentioned.

Is there something at Pontypool as well? A few weeks ago I was on a 175/1 which stopped there and they had to switch it off and sort something out before it proceeded. I don't think there was a fire alarm but it was after the first Wilmslow fire.

Hope they can get 116 back out because a 175/1 is a dream these days on the Manchester trains.

 

[Caaardiff]

The 175's that have been out in recent weeks are the ones that haven't been stopped or have had checks and been released again. It's been pretty much the same 4-5 units that have been in service. The reliance on them will no doubt take it's toll on their reliability soon.

 

[animationmilo]

108 was terminated at Shrewsbury due to problems with the train
So both sets failed!

 

[Anonymous10]

108 was terminated at Shrewsbury due to problems with the train
So both sets failed!

No record on rtt of 116 being out may just be 108

 

[Dan G]

So the only working 175 sets right now are:

001
003
006
011
108
116

Right?

 

[MP393]

No record on rtt of 116 being out may just be 108

116 Was working 1V95 Holyhead - Llanelli (from Chester) yesterday when it failed at Pontypool. It was showing as 158826 on RTT, but it was definitely the 175.

I suspect (although this isn’t confirmed) 175108 was cancelled so it could rescue 116, as there can’t be many 175s around to be the rescue, the nearest one will be cancelled and sent to assist. It would still show as cancelled due to a problem with the train as that’s the original reason.

 

[Caaardiff]

So the only working 175 sets right now are:

001
003
006
011
108
116

Right?

003 hasn't been seen for days.
No sign of 001 or 116 today.
That means only 3 out.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

116 Was working 1V95 Holyhead - Llanelli (from Chester) yesterday when it failed at Pontypool. It was showing as 158826 on RTT, but it was definitely the 175.

I suspect (although this isn’t confirmed) 175108 was cancelled so it could rescue 116, as there can’t be many 175s around to be the rescue, the nearest one will be cancelled and sent to assist. It would still show as cancelled due to a problem with the train as that’s the original reason.

108 was indeed cancelled to rescue 116. Believe 116 is now in Canton awaiting taking to Chester for repairs.

 

[AgeoftheTrain7]

Just seen two 175s joined together running a northbound service to Chester.
RTT says it's 001 and 116, but I'm pretty sure that was 2 175/0s joined together, especially with the problem with 116 failing recently.

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[Anonymous10]

Just seen two 175s joined together running a northbound service to Chester.
RTT says it's 001 and 116, but I'm pretty sure that was 2 175/0s joined together, especially with the problem with 116 failing recently.

Realtime Trains | 1D65 1622 Cardiff Central to Shrewsbury | 22/03/2023

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Chester is the maintenance depot for the 175s so it could be being took to Chester for repairs

 

[MP393]

Just seen two 175s joined together running a northbound service to Chester.
RTT says it's 001 and 116, but I'm pretty sure that was 2 175/0s joined together, especially with the problem with 116 failing recently.

Realtime Trains | 1D65 1622 Cardiff Central to Shrewsbury | 22/03/2023

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It’s Plausible, as said earlier up 116 is awaiting transfer to Chester for repair, and the easiest way to do that is tag it onto another!

 

[HamworthyGoods]

I don't actually think 002 is off lease until its inspection is finished. 005 definitely the 2nd one withdrawn though.

I don’t believe either have actually been withdrawn. Withdrawn means deleted from the National Rolling Stock library and these two units haven’t.

They’ve been taken out of service from TfW yes and will be going off lease but that doesn’t mean the same as withdrawn.

 

[Anonymous10]

Chester is the maintenance depot for the 175s so it could be being took to Chester for repair

Edit yes it later forms a service onto chest dmu depot so 116 is definitely possible

 

[MP393]

Edit yes it later forms a service onto chest dmu depot so 116 is definitely possible

I’ve just passed said service south of Ludlow, 116 definitely on the rear.

 

[sd0733]

Looks like they failed causing disruption along the Marches

 

[L401CJF]

Fire alarm activation apparently near Hereford, 001 and 116.

175108 behind on 1W23 reported to be going to assist, but if that's got problems of its own maybe not!

 

[sd0733]

Fire alarm activation apparently near Hereford, 001 and 116.

175108 behind on 1W23 reported to be going to assist, but if that's got problems of its own maybe not!

Since heard that this is in fact what's happened. 108 being used to rescue 116 (again!)

 

[Anonymous10]

Since heard that this is in fact what's happened. 108 being used to rescue 116 (again!)

Got to be frustrating for those on 008 as that's cancelled their journey too

 

[Andrew*Debbie]

175011 is working Holyhead to Cardiff Central this morning. Real Time Trains initialy showed a 158 but has since corrected.

 

[SuperLuke2334]

175011 is working Holyhead to Cardiff Central this morning. Real Time Trains initialy showed a 158 but has since corrected.

Joined with 003 at Chester and both worked down.

 

[Jez]

Only 3 x 175s out today on Holyheads. All Swansea to Crewe/Manchester were Sprinters. Fortunately quite a few were 158s. Doesn't seem to be any sign of more 175s coming back anytime soon
.

 

[D365]

I was reading Modern Railway at the weekend and was surprised to read that the owner of the 175s is discussing use by other TOCs and is not yet planning to scrap them.

’Discussing’ and ’agreeing’ are two separate matters! But there must somewhere still be a market for modern diesel units.