Jacobdas
Member
When is the expected time for the electrification to finish
-
Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
TfGM Bee Network - fleet discussion
- Thread starter Leyland Bus
- Start date
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
MCRTransitYT
Member
November i believe
27125/6 made an stop overnight at Stockport before carrying to Stagecoach South West supposedly bound for Exeter
darylyates17
Member
What vehicles will Middleton be acquiring for electrification BZLs?
toms
Member
Adding to this, what is the current plan? Are the BZLs initially ordered for Stockport going here? I’m a couple pages behind on this
Class 466
Established Member
The remaining ones, yes. Most are with Metroline
py_megapixel
Established Member
Speaking of BZLs, I believe Ashton now has entirely BZLs (84 off the top of my head) - is that entirely double decks or are there some singles as well?
Also does anyone happen to know how many of each type of EV is at Hyde Road?
Also does anyone happen to know how many of each type of EV is at Hyde Road?
All doubles
darylyates17
Member
How much longer are the BJ10 Citaros likely to stay?
mattyharding
On Moderation
I can't see them staying long but there are no plans for Tameside (Denton) Depot to be electrified
Kianlewis48
Member
First Rochdale (37430/69562) have gone for repaint at Adderley Green in Stoke, both buses due to come back in ultraviolet.
Rather odd working saw Oldham Depot BZL 66071 perform a return trip on 402 Oldham-Buckstones service last night, looks like Oldham are short of Buses and having compliance problems which has seen some rather odd workings over the past week.
mayneway
Member
Find it very hard to believe Oldham were short of buses on a Sunday evening.
Class 466
Established Member
Driver probably just wanted to take one out for a spin
Indeed, I can’t see what’s wrong with a BZL single deck being used on the 402
mayneway
Member
My understanding is the BZL’s are Queens road buses for the free buses and only get charged at Oldham.
Worm
Member
They've turned up on the 180 a couple of times in recent weeks
Would Oldham get booked for using a BZL single on 402 or does compliance mean that any electric single can be used on the route?
I'd love to know what the ruling is on what can be used on various routes, for example I live on 181/182 route and if compliance means the route has to be operated by E300s which most duties are I know that there's one duty in the evening that comes off a 81 which in return does one trip first thing in the morning on 82 so has to be a decker usually a hybrid B5 decker from what I can gather.
Also is it compliant for Queens Road to use a decker on 480s or is the route meant to be booked singles?
I'd love to know what the ruling is on what can be used on various routes, for example I live on 181/182 route and if compliance means the route has to be operated by E300s which most duties are I know that there's one duty in the evening that comes off a 81 which in return does one trip first thing in the morning on 82 so has to be a decker usually a hybrid B5 decker from what I can gather.
Also is it compliant for Queens Road to use a decker on 480s or is the route meant to be booked singles?
mayneway
Member
Age limits apart, normally if a decker is used on a single decker route there is no issue as it’s deemed as ‘uplift’.
If a single is used on a route that’s required to be a decker then obviously it’s a fine.
mattyharding
On Moderation
So say if the 348 uses an E300 instead of an E400 MMC/B5LH it will get fined
mayneway
Member
If the board stipulates a D/D hybrid and a single is used then yes.
Obviously if a 24 plate MMC was used or an electric decker then there would be no issue.
mattyharding
On Moderation
Or even a 69 plate MMC would be fine or the occasional 08/09 plate trident
Go Northwest's 20 Bolton-Trafford Centre is an interesting one as not to sure if all boards for 20 stipulate this but the one I saw once said "Any Age Single Decker", this will explain the variety of vehicle types that appear on 20 from day to day.
mattyharding
On Moderation
does anyone know what happened to 13163 and 13165
mayneway
Member
I’d imagine they are either away for painting and interior conversion or are off the road with engine/hybrid issues.
I was behind one of the ex First/GNW B5’s yesterday in Ashton and it sounded extremely rough.
Given they both seem to have come off the road on the 31/8 I’d suggest paint and conversion, although why TFGM insists on spending money on these sheds is beyond me.
MCRTransitYT
Member
They aren't getting painted because it would be a waste of money for around a year of service, so it's more likely being repaired as they are unreliable, and Oldham doesn't have any replacements (yet)
mattyharding
On Moderation
I think the 24 plate MMCs from Middleton will replace them once their depot is electric which would be a huge upgrade for services like the 350/348 etc as the B5s are woefully unreliable I don't even know why TFGM even considered these buses
MCRTransitYT
Member
Hopefully the B5s go first but it does leave older e400s still going
mattyharding
On Moderation
Or maybe some of Queens roads 24 plates also come as well i'm not sure
mayneway
Member
Hang on…
They are getting painted as half of the batch have already been done.
While I agree they are unreliable TFGM bought them for the vehicle pool NOT as stop gaps like the B9’s and Scania’s so don’t bet on them being withdrawn anytime soon!
== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
Because they were hoodwinked into believing they were decent buses along with the B9’s and Scania’s.