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SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

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Slightly lost track. is 458535 still at Wimbledon, or has it gone to Long Mardton?
 
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Potentially a withdrawal this week. ROG have a published path from Wimbledon to Derby Litchurch Lane for Thursday, the loco would come down tomorrow direct to Wimbledon. These moves have been 455s in the past with GBRF doing 701 related moves.
455716 and 455721 are the units leaving.
 

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Slightly lost track. is 458535 still at Wimbledon, or has it gone to Long Mardton?
529 is currently in Long Marston
530/533 are alternating between Wimbledon & Staines depending on the day (still in service)
535 is currently in Wimbledon (presumably awaiting drag to Long Marston eventually...)
 

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Wow, well spotted. Never noticed that difference! The /9's single rainstrip appears much higher than the /7's individual rainstrips. Is it as effective that high up? As the /9s are newer, I guess this is supposed to be an improved design?
There were other differences as well for the 455/9 from the model railway forum with rainstrips also mentioned. link

Summary of link:
"additional roof ventilators due to the moving of heating equipment from roof level to floor level, no roof end hatches, no car end ventilation grilles; full length rain guttering at the Cantrail level instead of only over the doors; cast alloy tread plates at all doorways and a snow baffle in front of the air horns."

Seems strange we now only have photos of the 455/9's now they are all gone though get the earlier thread comment the corrosion in this sub class was pretty bad.

With the previous post assume there will be two pairs of 455/7 remaining on SWR for now for cover.
 

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There were other differences as well for the 455/9 from the model railway forum with rainstrips also mentioned. link

Summary of link:
"additional roof ventilators due to the moving of heating equipment from roof level to floor level, no roof end hatches, no car end ventilation grilles; full length rain guttering at the Cantrail level instead of only over the doors; cast alloy tread plates at all doorways and a snow baffle in front of the air horns."

Seems strange we now only have photos of the 455/9's now they are all gone though get the earlier thread comment the corrosion in this sub class was pretty bad.

With the previous post assume there will be two pairs of 455/7 remaining on SWR for now for cover.
I noted on LRR that 5721 5716 last worked last Thurs 19th 0733 Weybridge to Waterloo. I wonder if they are the candidates for the drag ?
 

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I thought the plan was to keep these two units (plus four others) at Wimbledon until the end of March?

Maybe the 701 rollout is going better than anticipated and they are no longer required……
 

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I thought the plan was to keep these two units (plus four others) at Wimbledon until the end of March?

Maybe the 701 rollout is going better than anticipated and they are no longer required……
Well, it's only a few weeks until the end of March and I thought the 455s were retained on the basis that they be gone *by* the end of March.

There's now 39 701s for 35 diagrams. If SWR suddenly had to get shot of all remaining 455s today it would hardly impact resilience.
 

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Well, it's only a few weeks until the end of March and I thought the 455s were retained on the basis that they be gone *by* the end of March.

There's now 39 701s for 35 diagrams. If SWR suddenly had to get shot of all remaining 455s today it would hardly impact resilience.
The 458/4s are the main issue at the moment. The 455s out this afternoon are on a 701 diagram, but that 701 is doing a 458/4 diagram instead. One or two more 701 diagrams and wouldn't need the 455s to cover for 458/4s either.

A VSTP has appeared for the light loco move in place of the cancelled path this morning
 

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The 458/4s are the main issue at the moment. The 455s out this afternoon are on a 701 diagram, but that 701 is doing a 458/4 diagram instead. One or two more 701 diagrams and wouldn't need the 455s to cover for 458/4s either.

A VSTP has appeared for the light loco move in place of the cancelled path this morning
This ran today so do we now have a scrap move on for tomorrow?
 

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The drag for today which was meant to have 5716 and 5721 on it has been canceled, this was due to the loco for the drag not making it out of Derby.
 

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According to some chap on FB (who accurately reported 5716+5721’s demise), it looks like all of SWR’s 455’s have now been stood down. Unless anyone knows anything to the contrary, it looks like the last time one ran in ordinary passenger service was on the 25th February.

I expect that the 458/5’s will be dispensed with in short order.
 

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According to some chap on FB (who accurately reported 5716+5721’s demise), it looks like all of SWR’s 455’s have now been stood down. Unless anyone knows anything to the contrary, it looks like the last time one ran in ordinary passenger service was on the 25th February.

I expect that the 458/5’s will be dispensed with in short order.
Certainly no 455s out for the rest of the day - I asked SWR if they had any planned for today

Reply from SWR Twitter
 

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I expect that the 458/5’s will be dispensed with in short order.
One of the two remaining diagrams is replaced by a pair of 458/4s from Monday, themselves displaced off another diagram by a 701.

So I agree. I reckon the 458/5s will also be gone by the end of March.
 

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According to some chap on FB (who accurately reported 5716+5721’s demise), it looks like all of SWR’s 455’s have now been stood down. Unless anyone knows anything to the contrary, it looks like the last time one ran in ordinary passenger service was on the 25th February.

I expect that the 458/5’s will be dispensed with in short order.
That would also align the the multiple short forms the Windsor side has seen in the last few days rather than an 8-455 being used.
 
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One of the two remaining diagrams is replaced by a pair of 458/4s from Monday, themselves displaced off another diagram by a 701.

So I agree. I reckon the 458/5s will also be gone by the end of March.
Is it possible to say please which diagram is going. Is it the 8.33 Weybridge or the one that does the Readings
 

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Is it possible to say please which diagram is going. Is it the 8.33 Weybridge or the one that does the Readings
The 08:33 Weybridge one stays 458/5, the Reading one switches to 458/4s. 2U73 22:33 to Windsor swaps from the Reading diagram to the Weybridge one and 22:22 Weybridge swaps from Weybridge onto Reading to balance out the stock.

With 458 availability not being great what actually happens might vary a little from planned.
 

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Is it possible to say please which diagram is going. Is it the 8.33 Weybridge or the one that does the Readings

It is the diagram that starts with 0620 Waterloo - Reading that ended on Friday, which in practice was Thursday because the 458/5 was covered by a 450 on Friday. 458533 is working to Reading late tonight and then ECS to Staines to be in position for Monday morning
 
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