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computerSaysNo

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Strathtay 260 said:
What is 13050 doing at Aberdeen?
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Volvodart said:
The last time one was there it had been at Volvo in Aberdeen.
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Strathtay 260 said:
There was a recent photo on Facebook of 13050 at the Stagecoach Aberdeen depot. Someone has now told me it's there for an MOT.
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Volvodart said:
Volvo usually do Aberdeen MOTs.
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Isn't the B5LH vehicle computer-restricted to 43mph?
Does this not affect safety when they are driven on rural dual carriageways and motorways? As other traffic is likely to be doing around 60-70mph and probably isn't expecting to come across a vehicle only doing 40mph, especially on a motorway.
Several websites say that driving anything slower than 50mph on a motorway can be dangerous.
 
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Don't see the problem on roads which are not subject to motorway restrictions. After all, you get tractors on dual carriageways chugging along at 30mph and slower.
 
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computerSaysNo said:
Isn't the B5LH vehicle computer-restricted to 43mph?
Does this not affect safety when they are driven on rural dual carriageways and motorways? As other traffic is likely to be doing around 60-70mph and probably isn't expecting to come across a vehicle only doing 40mph, especially on a motorway.
Several websites say that driving anything slower than 50mph on a motorway can be dangerous.
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That's just an operator specification and can be changed by Volvo dealership.
 
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16 plate ADL Enviro400 MMCs: 10671-10673 have now transferred Stagecoach East Scotland from Stagecoach Oxfordshire to replace Arbroath's 2015 (and Perth's 2017?) B5LHs, according to bustimes.org and a post on Facebook.

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Morayshire said:
Don't see the problem on roads which are not subject to motorway restrictions. After all, you get tractors on dual carriageways chugging along at 30mph and slower.
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Yeah I had thought of that too. I thought I remembered a post here saying that "websites saying that 40mph on a motorway is dangerous are likely to be offering their opinion on the matter and not fact"; I can't see that post now but having considered it I would tend to agree.
RomeoCharlie71 said:
No the Stagecoach East Scotland ones are limited to 50mph (and one used to be limited to 57mph)
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Spsf3232 said:
That's just an operator specification and can be changed by Volvo dealership.
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Ahh okay, thanks both.
Strathtay 260 said:
16 plate ADL Enviro400 MMCs: 10671-10673 have now transferred Stagecoach East Scotland from Stagecoach Oxfordshire to replace Arbroath's 2015 (and Perth's 2017?) B5LHs, according to bustimes.org and a post on Facebook.

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Do we know what is planned for the B5LHs?
 
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Strathtay 260 said:
16 plate ADL Enviro400 MMCs: 10671-10673 have now transferred Stagecoach East Scotland from Stagecoach Oxfordshire to replace Arbroath's 2015 (and Perth's 2017?) B5LHs, according to bustimes.org and a post on Facebook.

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Reported on this week's Oxford Chiltern Bus Page some of these will be transferring as soon as the electrics enter service in Oxford - not sure how many but presumably enough to allow the 2015 B5LHs to be withdrawn. These will start to be moved once charging infrastructure is live in Oxford, with the buses being stored and ready to enter service.
computerSaysNo said:
Do we know what is planned for the B5LHs?
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Think they're being sold to Manchester for the Metroline operations
 
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A comment on Facebook says 10674/75/76 have also left Oxford and are on their way to Arbroath now. I wonder how long until they enter service?
 
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overthewater said:
Does Oxford have 28 spare E400MMC? that's the number East Scotland is due to get shortly.
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Well there’s 55 new E400EVs due to enter service imminently, although not all at once. So yes they could cascade that many E400MMCs out. This plan to get the Volvo Hybrids out of Scotland seems to have thrown internal cascades within Stagecoach West into doubt, but I’m sure all will become clear soon!
 
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EnviroExplorer said:
Well there’s 55 new E400EVs due to enter service imminently, although not all at once. So yes they could cascade that many E400MMCs out. This plan to get the Volvo Hybrids out of Scotland seems to have thrown internal cascades within Stagecoach West into doubt, but I’m sure all will become clear soon!
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I wouldn't say the internal cascades are in doubt, just delayed. Certainly the tone of the comms within East Scotland was that they'd only have cascaded vehicles temporarily until ADL could deliver their new, delayed EVs.
You'd assume that once said EVs arrive, the MMCs will go back to West...
 
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mbonwick said:
I wouldn't say the internal cascades are in doubt, just delayed. Certainly the tone of the comms within East Scotland was that they'd only have cascaded vehicles temporarily until ADL could deliver their new, delayed EVs.
You'd assume that once said EVs arrive, the MMCs will go back to West...
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That suggests the East Scotland EVs can't be too far away - but have they started on depot work at Arbroath (or anywhere else)? If not the cascaded E400 MMCs from Oxford (understood to be 10668-83, the 16-reg batch, at least to replace the Tayway B5LHs) could be staying a while!
 
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The spare ETMs:
99091 is 27797
99092 is 10672
99093 is 10673
99097 is 10671

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I wonder how long it will take for them to track under their own code.
 
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Volvodart said:
It was on the X7 today tracking as 99097.
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It must have changed codes then because it was definitely on the 73C yesterday tracking as 99091.

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According to Facebook, it's only 13041-13054 going.
 
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Praise be to Stagecoach !!

Daughter left her (uninsured) phone on the X60 from St Andrews to Anstruther this afternoon on an outing to the legendary "Wee Chippie" (very good and reasonably priced sit down)

Phone traced to Methil Depot and she was able to pick it up this evening after a quick call..
 
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10671-10676 are now tracking as themselves.

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13041/47/53 seem to have left East Scotland now for Metroline.
10684 has arrived at East Scotland.

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All Arbroath’s new arrivals of E400 MMCs from Oxford so far:
10671 - SN16 OYT
10672 - SN16 OYU
10673 - SN16 OYV
10674 - SN16 OYW
10675 - SN16 OYX
10676 - SN16 OYY
10677 - SN16 OYZ (not entered service yet)
10678 - SN16 OZA (not entered service yet)
10679 - SN16 OZB (not entered service yet)
10680 - SN16 OZJ
10681 - SN16 OZK
10684 - SN66 WHC
 
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Does anyone know when the EVs for 99 St Andrews will be arriving?
Yutongs starting to appear down south so hopefully not long.

Any infrastructure work started?
 
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In the early hours of this morning, the first of the E100 EVs for Glenrothes depot arrived. These will mainly be found on the 34 group in kirkcaldy
 
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Scotrail88 said:
Does anyone know when the EVs for 99 St Andrews will be arriving?
Yutongs starting to appear down south so hopefully not long.

Any infrastructure work started?
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I hate to say it but, it wont be this year. I think it's all be pencilled in for the next finical year AKA April 2025 onward. Also its not clear what type of bus St Andrews is getting?


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In the early hours of this morning, the first of the E100 EVs for Glenrothes depot arrived. These will mainly be found on the 34 group in kirkcaldy
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Then within a few hours had a launch event at Kirkcaldy Library.
 
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